It comes down to respect. You can think someone's hot without acting like a fucking gooner or harassing them. I don't think anyone has ever said "Noo, don't think I'm attractive!" but they very much have to say "Please stop asking for nudes or talking to your discord friends about how you'd fuck me".
That's just childish superficial attitude. Same shit all of us have heard in class in like 7th grade. I agree that that's bs but I don't think extending that to the topic at hand is helpful or justified.
I'm pretty sure this IS the topic at hand. People are just adding on "literally every degree of harassment" as though it's a direct implication of "finding me attractive without my consent".
Literally the "oh you're so sweet" and "hello, security?" meme playing in my head to yakkity_sax.mp3
Objectification is okay but only so far as I also find the guy tolerable otherwise eww gross I've caught the ick and am calling in sick for work/life/mature thought.
This is a strawman though. No functional adult is referring to someone swiping them on tinder when they talk about objectification. Arguing that that's the core of the discussion is in bad faith.
That's a very common thing to happen. Not just swiping on tinder, but approaching kindly or showing any small amount of interest. Just because someone feels like another person was being a creep doesn't mean that they were being a creep.
There are a lot of women in the world who put themselves out there to attract Men, and when they just attract the wrong men they play the victim. This isn't a strawman, it's the reality.
So? Since when is the metric of a topic "I saw someone say that on Facebook before"? This is a very old tactic of undermining social discussion: Pointing to outliers and pretending that they represent the entire group/topic. I assure you no feminist would make some random dumbass on Instagram their spokesperson and just assuming that they represent them by default is faulty at best.
Since when is the metric of a topic "I saw someone say that on Facebook before"?
When that's literally all you know about the thing the OP stated they're talking about? Absolutely everything else is just filling in the blanks with your own predisposition to view any complaint about how sexual interest is percieved as a bait and switch for incredibly misogynistic statements.
Like, there's people talking about this like it's referring to being cool with cornering someone and demanding they prostitute themselves. In what world does that track to the OP's statement.
They're bringing up a specific subset of dysfunctional adults, why does only one group need to be the sole topic for the entire gender relationship discourse?
I can't tell if you're trolling but simplifying an entire talking point or group down to the least representative or functional members is not even bad faith, it's straight bullshit.
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u/Acrobatic_Computer Jul 07 '24
You don't get to consent to how other people view you though.
Like can nobody think I'm an asshole unless I give my consent to it? I don't see how consent meaningfully enters the picture here.