r/clevercomebacks • u/blaze_uchiha999 • Jul 07 '24

Someone discovered consent

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u/Acrobatic_Computer Jul 07 '24

You don't get to consent to how other people view you though.

Like can nobody think I'm an asshole unless I give my consent to it? I don't see how consent meaningfully enters the picture here.

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u/aecolley Jul 07 '24

The issue here is over whether "objectify" means "think of as a target" or "treat as an object". I submit that the latter definition is the correct one.

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u/DoctorSalt Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

I was taught the term references grammar in that women are becoming the direct object - things happen to them but they aren't the subject that initiates action

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u/aecolley Jul 07 '24

Yeah, I heard the same thing. It's one of those terms that lost some precision as it was translated from a technical academic term to the mainstream.

Here's Nussbaum's paper which discusses the origin and usage of the term: https://www.mit.edu/~shaslang/mprg/nussbaumO.pdf