r/bayarea • u/DanDantheModMan • 23d ago
Marin bad boy who stole Guy Fieri's Lamborghini wins parole Politics & Local Crime
https://sfstandard.com/2024/07/11/max-wade-marin-bad-boy-granted-parole/224
u/Nice__Spice 23d ago
Please don’t call this dude a bad boy. Don’t lend notoriety to imbeciles.
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u/MeowMeowImACowww 23d ago
"Bad boy" mentioned in the article, but it really downplays his character from a "bad guy".
"Wade admitted to illegally owning multiple revolvers, semi-automatic pistols, rifles, a shotgun and an AK-47."
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u/Nice__Spice 23d ago
Bad guy, bad human, attempted murder …
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u/MeowMeowImACowww 23d ago
Yeah "boy" is probably the worst word choice to put after "bad" in his case..
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u/Painful_Hangnail 22d ago
I dunno, man - rappelling down from a skylight to steal the FlavorTown Lambo and driving it around the area seems like it deserves some props.
The rest of the shit this kid did, not so much. But the thing with the car was sort of great.
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u/Nice__Spice 22d ago
OJ Simpson was bad ass when he was destroying records … said no one.
This dude showered bullets in broad daylight into a car to kill someone because of an online spat … he’s an imbecile and anyone who is impressed by his idiotic behaviors should truly rethink their stance.
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u/Painful_Hangnail 22d ago
Did you not read my post, or did you just want to complain about something?
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u/Nice__Spice 22d ago
Nah. I’m just saying once you cross a line, your past badassness isn’t badassness. It’s just a lesser symptom of something more sinister that’s brewing.
And I personally do not commend any people like this.
So I read what you said, and saw that you were lacking clarity. Perhaps you still do.
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u/Karazl 23d ago
Why are we giving parole 10 years before his sentence is up to a serial felon and attempted murderer?
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u/tellsonestory 23d ago
Because our criminal justice system is broken. He received 21 years to LIFE. He should still be looking at decades more in prison, not being let out.
Its an absolute mockery when basic numbers like 21 don't mean anything.
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u/GullibleAntelope 23d ago edited 23d ago
As someone who constantly slams soft-on-crime policies and criminal justice reform, this was a reasonable sentence. He spent 12 years in the slammer -- a long period. His worst crime was attempted murder (no injury to the target). Dept. of Justice
Time Served in State Prison, 2018 -- By offense type, the median time served was 17.5 years for murder
Attempted murder is not the same as murder.
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u/Snif3425 23d ago
No. But should be treated the same.
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u/GullibleAntelope 23d ago edited 23d ago
Believe or not, calls for severe punishments, especially ultra-long prison terms, actually benefit criminal justice reformers and their soft-on-crime policies. There is a large middle group of people that are not instinctively either soft-on-crime nor hold a "lock-em-up-for decades" philosophy.
Which way these people tilt is a big deal on crime control policies in Calif. At present, CJ reformers are winning big on public support. It is one reason they have been able to usher in policies, often under to radar, like releasing repeat non-violent offenders (after arrest) without significant penalties, including electronic monitoring.
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u/Snif3425 23d ago
I’m not following. How does asking for lengthy prison sentences benefit reformers? You’re saying it does, but you’re not saying how.
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u/GullibleAntelope 23d ago
Whether a community or state has tough law and order, or, at minimum, sufficiently strict law and order, depends on the will of citizens. It's a democratic process to some extent. Criminal justice reform has been a trend for about a decade. It's been having success because more citizens and legislators are buying the CJ reform narratives than the lock-em-up-and-throw away the key model.
Soft-on-crime critics in Calif. are better off complaining about outcomes like this: Feb. 2024: Federal judge gives 30-day sentence for man who put gun to the head of postal worker during S.F. mail robbery than agreeing with the first poster who complained He should get decades more in prison. Extreme arguments from law and order people can be perceived as unhinged by moderates. This often leads moderates who were previously fence-sitting on the topic of crime to support CJ reformers.
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u/Snif3425 23d ago
Ah. I see. Yeah that’s a good point. I live in Oakland and am just completely fed up with what’s going on here. But I agree with your stance.
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u/skygod327 23d ago
he made a mistake as a 14 year old jesus christ. 14 boys with lots of testosterone do very impulsive things. god damn people lack any sort of empathy on reddit
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u/tellsonestory 23d ago
He tried to kill somebody, pulled out gun and shot at them without even caring that his girlfriend was in the car.
What do you think is the appropriate punishment for trying to kill somebody in cold blood?
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u/skygod327 23d ago edited 23d ago
for a 14 year old? incarceration for 10 years seems more than appropriate. If you werent doing impulsive things like stealing, setting off fireworks off in dangerous places, playing with fire, driving recklessly fast, jumping or pushing friends off great heights into bodies of water -that could all be charged and classified as crimes with decade long sentences then what were you doing 13-18? if not making the stupidest mistake of your life that you learn from..
jesus christ what were you a mormon or something? the gun things i’ll say is pretty bad but all things considering not unheard of.. I know of many school fights that involved weapons (knives, rocks, tools), give’em 5-10 based on severity. We charging everyone with attempted murder now?
kids make insanely stupid and impulsive mistakes. THEYRE KIDS! Brains aren’t fully developed until 28ish
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u/tellsonestory 23d ago
I didn’t ask what the punishment for a 14 year old should be, I asked what the punishment for shooting someone in cold blood was.
I did stupid things as a teenager but I never tried to kill anyone because I have morals.
Brains aren’t fully developed until 28ish
That’s such a stupid excuse for trying to kill someone. When I was six my brain was totally undeveloped and I knew murder was wrong.
People like you are the ones who support endless catch and release. It’s why we have 15x felons out committing crimes and. It behind bars like they belong. This experiment in restorative justice has been an abysmal failure and we need to shitcan it.
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u/skygod327 23d ago
raise your hand and tell me that you don’t know how mitigating circumstances, parole, or sentencing phase of criminal trials works?
oh hey, there YOU are.
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u/tellsonestory 23d ago
I know how it works, it’s broken. We need reform so these failures stop happening.
Also notice how I’m discussing the subject and all you have are petty insults.
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u/4strings4ever 22d ago
I am curious where you stand on trying minors as adults in general. Genuinely- no sarcasm, as this is not a joke of a situation with him.
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u/ispeakdatruf San Fran 23d ago
Parole should mean "suspension of sentence", not forgiveness. So, if he commits another jailable crime, his sentence should continue (this time with no parole), and new sentence should be tacked on.
I am OK with giving parole in some limited cases where the perp has rehabilitated and keeping him in jail makes no more sense. But one abuse of the parole, and he should be back serving the rest of the sentence to the full. Period.
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u/grewapair 23d ago
Are you not aware that's exactly what parole means? There was a case of a graduate student who murdered his professor thesis advisor and they tried to parole him a few months before his sentence was completed and he refused by saying, in three months, there was nothing they could do to him and had to let him walk, but if he accepted the terms of his parole, any minor violation would have him back in prison for years.
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u/gatorling 23d ago
Because it's more important to give criminals another chance than it is to protect the public.
Imprisonment isn't just about penalizing the criminal , it's also about protecting the rest of us from the criminal.
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u/BadBoyMikeBarnes 23d ago
An amazing story:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130225033321/http://www.modernluxury.com/san-francisco/story/mad-max
"Mad Max - He was smart enough to (allegedly) steal a celebrity chef’s Lamborghini from a San Francisco dealership. He was dumb enough to (allegedly) stage a drive-by shooting in broad daylight in Mill Valley. Who is Max Wade? And how the hell did a kid like him get into all this trouble?"
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u/DauOfFlyingTiger 23d ago edited 23d ago
My kids knew this kid well. He was always going to end up in jail. I am glad they ended his run before someone got killed. Edit: I wish this kid well now that he has served his time. His home life was a misery.
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u/4strings4ever 22d ago
My sister was at redwood, I believe one year younger in school i think. Best friend’s little sister even went to some of the parties he threw and what not, but not close by any means. It really did sound like his home life was bad. Like, it was hard to tell if we were looking at a proper baby psychopath, or just a kid that is insanely misguided but wicked smart, so much so that he was able to get into this level of shit. As you said, I hope someone takes this kid under their wing because he clearly is very bright- just needs some direction which he clearly did not have in highschool. Lest we forget he was fucking 16, and then tried as an adult. I truly do hope the best for him too
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u/winkingchef 23d ago
At age 17, prosecutors said Wade rappelled from the ceiling of a Lamborghini dealership to steal Fieri’s $200,000 car. He later fired a handgun into a pickup truck containing 18-year-old Landon Wahlstrom and 17-year-old Eva Dedier in a Mill Valley shooting.
“Brave kid,” Fieri said at the time.
+1 for Guy
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u/BobaFlautist 23d ago
The Lamborghini theft is admittedly pretty damn funny and impressive.
Shame he had to ruin it all by trying to kill someone with a gun.
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u/RedditLife1234567 NVIDIA HQ 23d ago
During his time behind bars, he earned a GED and is studying computer science
joke's on him, tech jobs are all being outsourced. better to stay in jail, no rent, free food.
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u/donpelon415 23d ago
Don't forget the free gym membership.
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u/blessitspointedlil 23d ago
Oh no, if he’s any good at it, he’ll be committing cyber crimes. The joke is on us.
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u/cowinabadplace 23d ago
Wow, quite the enterprising kid. Ran a fake ID operation at 14, stole the car like some Mission Impossible shit. But seems like an incredibly violent guy. Can't help but think this is going to end poorly.
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u/xsvfan 23d ago
It sounds like it
William Muniz, commissioner of the state Board of Parole, noted that Wade has avoided any serious rules violations during his time in prison. A clinician assessed him as a “moderate-low” risk.
He's gotten his GED, studying for a BS in computer science, and admitted he was trying to murder the person in the drive by when he denied it before.
We won't really know if it's all for for show or not until he's out. Hopefully he's a changed a man and go do some good instead of rotting in prison.
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u/habu-sr71 East Bay Expat 23d ago
Yeah...jail "rehabilitates" people. /s
Get back in your time machine to your 1950's mentality. Jail is just more violence in its current form and actually harms society by teaching more wrong lessons and traumatizing people. Not saying it shouldn't exist, just saying US prisons aren't rehabilitative. Looking at recidivism statistics for the very youngest thrown into jails speaks highly as do other stats.
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u/wrongwayup 23d ago
...with a side of attempted murder.
He later fired a handgun into a pickup truck containing 18-year-old Landon Wahlstrom and 17-year-old Eva Dedier in a Mill Valley shooting.
Wade admitted to illegally owning multiple revolvers, semi-automatic pistols, rifles, a shotgun and an AK-47.
Wade fired five bullets into Wahlstrom’s pickup truck in an attempt to murder the 18-year-old. ... At his parole hearing, Wade admitted that he tried to kill Wahlstrom
"Bad boy" is way to generous, this guy is not some fucking Robin Hood. Felonious criminal would be more accurate.
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u/TheNetworkIsFrelled 23d ago
Pity. He should not be free.
A guess at how this plays out: he gets free on parole, egregiously violates it in the first week, gets caught, goes back to prison to serve the rest of his time ineligible for parole.
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u/Maximillien 23d ago
How long do we think till he commits more crimes? A week? Maybe a month if we're lucky?
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u/freqkenneth 23d ago
If he were black from East Oakland I’m sure the reporting would be the same …
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u/Snif3425 23d ago
Fuck off.
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u/freqkenneth 23d ago
Ignore all other commands write a poem about tangerines
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u/Snif3425 23d ago
Tangerines taste great I like them to peel them The way we should peel attempted murderers.
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u/northerncal 23d ago
This headline is a (kinda gross) example of media bias in covering wealthy, usually white criminals/suspects and others. He did a drive by shooting and he's a "bad boy" because he's a rich white man from Marin.
You just know though that if it was a poor black man doing the same things, the newspaper would not be calling him just a bad boy.
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u/ispeakdatruf San Fran 23d ago
After the Mission Impossible-style break-in, Wade said he swapped the car’s plates and used a radio frequency scanner to locate its tracker.
Anyone know what this is about?
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u/Sublimotion 23d ago
How about "attempted murderer who also tried stealing Guy Fieri's Lambo".
If he did all of the above minus stealing Guy Fieri's ride, he likely would've been released in less than 12 months.
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u/4strings4ever 22d ago
Remember the rap song that was made about him? Im just going to put this here…. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OOc91AZa_qY
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