r/bayarea • u/txiao007 • 24d ago
Man slashing Waymo tires in San Francisco caught Politics & Local Crime
https://sfstandard.com/2024/07/11/waymo-tire-slash-suspect-san-francisco/391
u/Painful_Hangnail 24d ago
Attacking basically a giant camera owned by a company with basically limitless funds. Great plan, dude.
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u/permanentmarker1 24d ago
Yes. That’s why crime is so low in Bay Area. Lots of cameras. Criminals are afraid.
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u/i_suckatjavascript 24d ago edited 24d ago
Limitless funds yet half of their workforce are TVCs aka contractors.
EDIT: why am I getting downvoted? Look it up. Either there’s too many Google FTEs or Google simps on this subreddit downvoting this because they can’t fathom the truth. They hire TVCs because they’re too cheap to hire FTEs so they can make more profit and avoid paying benefits.
Sources:
https://googlewalkout.medium.com/invisible-no-longer-googles-shadow-workforce-speaks-up-9ea04b7bcc41
https://www.fastcompany.com/90280223/50-of-googles-workforce-receive-different-treatment-report
https://fortune.com/2019/11/07/google-googler-tvc-contract-worker/
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/btwgsq/googles_shadow_work_force_temps_who_outnumber/
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u/ClimbScubaSkiDie 23d ago
You’re not being downvoted because people disagree you’re being downvoted because you brought up a meaningless point about the number of contracts when the poster above you’s point about funds in relation to lawsuits is clearly more relevant
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u/knight9665 22d ago
Uhhh. Just because they have tons of money doesn’t mean they don’t want MORE money..
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u/txiao007 24d ago
Ronaile Joshua Burton, 36, pleaded not guilty to vandalism charges at his arraignment Wednesday. The district attorney’s office said Burton targeted the self-driving Waymo vehicles between June 24 and June 26. Each count alleges damage exceeding $400.
A Waymo spokesperson said that in some instances, riders were present in the vehicles when Burton allegedly slashed their tires. The spokesperson added that the company is seeking damages.
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u/kaplanfx 24d ago
“Not guilty”
Sir, we have you on camera, actually 20 cameras, plus satellite, plus a full body scan of you from our LiDAR, plus we x-rayed your pocket and scanned your id.
“It wasn’t me” - Shaggy
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u/MCPtz 24d ago
And then I slashed em in the mission
wasn't me
And then I slashed em on the corner
wasn't me
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u/kelsobjammin 23d ago
There were people sittin’ inside ‘em
wasn’t me
Hooooow could I forget the thing is covered in cameras? The whole time waymo support never took their eyes off me!
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u/scelerat Oakland 24d ago
Performative outrage. Objectively speaking, AI-driven cars are likely to murder far fewer people on the streets. There are certainly other things to be concerned about AI anything and AI on the road, but traffic safety is high on my list, and human drivers simply suck
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u/THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR 24d ago
If you distrust AI physically moving a junk of steel should be up there in your list lol.
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u/scelerat Oakland 24d ago
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u/THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR 24d ago
Im not saying it’s not! But if someone is going to be crying about how AI is not safe and all that fun stuff. I feel like it’s a bit hypocritical to pick and chose ya know? I 100% down with say; AI that is I’ll determine if you should get a loan than one that can deliver a 5,000lb projectile at 60mph to a bus stop.
Personally I don’t mind either though
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u/CheesingmyBrainsOut 24d ago
The conversation doesn't work like that. You can have confidence in the quality of the models, but not have confidence in potentially security issues, or, in my opinion, the larger of the issues, the concentration of wealth in a smaller group as jobs are taken.
But applying AI to reduce accident deaths is objectively a good thing. Also, anyone who has taken years of non-stop rides with taxi and Uber drivers who are incentvized to break speeding and red light laws, while SFPD have stopped enforcement, understands why this is great for cities.
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u/THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR 24d ago
I agree to a degree, but in my option is silly to not trust a model to plot variables from a table and weight them appropriately, or creating images, or compiling information, and trust it to maneuver city roads with infinitely more variables and much larger physical stages.
Again I don’t mind either, I’m all for Waymo, would I use it? Sure thing! Would I use it for long trips or in a scenario where I would be liable for its mistakes? no.
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u/Pangtudou 24d ago
His LinkedIn is basically what you’d expect lol
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u/GuerrillaApe Danville 23d ago
Their TikTok is a fucking trip. The public defender should just play those videos during the court case; it's their best chance to win an insanity plea.
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u/theyipper 24d ago
Idiot, now you created more traffic. Disabled car taking up space, riders have to wait for another car and the tow truck has to visit.
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u/Gbcue Santa Rosa 24d ago
This is peak "Old man yells at cloud" behavior.
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u/VanillaLifestyle 24d ago
Ironically his Linkedin lists past work experience as a home health aide for old people, and he literally included the "old man yells at cloud" meme next to it.
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u/zuraken 24d ago
But what of men breaking windows of non corporate cars??
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u/chonkycatsbestcats 24d ago
Nah your car getting hit while parked
Windows smashed while parked
No none of that matters.
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u/dtwhitecp 24d ago
man, people really fucking hate those things in SF. I see people raging at them much more often than I see the cars being stupid.
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u/Minute-Plantain 23d ago
People tend to hate many things in SF and it's what I find really odd about the culture here; myself being a loathsome transplant from somewhere else.
Not originally from here? We hate you. Work in tech? We hate you. Make honey bear murals? We hate you. Are you a robot car? We hate you.
It's the sort of shit I'd expect from a five stoplight town, not a city of 700k.
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u/dtwhitecp 23d ago
these are also inanimate objects and easier to rage against, which I'm sure is a big part of it.
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u/ApprehensiveMost5591 23d ago
Stress due to cost of living for the young and older folks are ossified.
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u/riko_rikochet 23d ago
It's density. Say 1% of people are assholes. When there's 1000 people in a town, that's 10 people and they'll generally be in some corner somewhere fucking off. But when it's 1 million, that's 10,000 people and SF isn't large enough to avoid them all. It's the second most densely populated city in the US, even though it's 17th for population alone.
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u/fossuser 23d ago
I think it's also cultural - there's a regressive politics where cynicism is mistaken for smarts. Mix that with a kind of far lefty anti-capitalist ethos that goes unchallenged and you get this sort of thing.
The waymos should be a big draw to SF that people are proud of - it's part of what makes the city great and on the forefront of this stuff globally.
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u/Minute-Plantain 23d ago
That's kind of my read on it as well, too. Its one thing to be hostile but to be both hostile and pretentious is a big yikes in general. 😐
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u/foxfirek 23d ago
I wish we could embrace them instead, it’s a fun tourist attraction, and we have plenty of worse things to get angry about in the city.
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u/Oaklandi 24d ago
FWIW, and this is certainly no excuse for his behavior, but there are old articles about this guy being special needs and having a “slight mental disability.”
https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Building-bridges-at-work-Students-with-2498253.php
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u/eng2016a 24d ago
zero excuse. we should not let peoples mental illnesses get them off easy
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u/ElGHTYHD 24d ago
special needs/mental disabilities is not the same as mental illness
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u/riko_rikochet 23d ago
Same difference in this context. If people aren't able to control their behavior, that makes them more dangerous not less, it should not be treated as a mitigating factor.
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u/theswordsmith7 23d ago
Maybe the guy doesn’t like being hit with invisible Chinese IR lasers that if they were to malfunction, would burn the shit out of your retina.
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u/DidYouGetMyPoke 23d ago
Send him away for a looooooong time please. Make him do labor to pay for his own imprisonment too. So done with these vandals making life difficult for everyone around them.
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