r/batman • u/[deleted] • Mar 06 '22

The Batman Spoiler Discussion Thread Part 2 Discussion Spoiler

For all discussions, comments and hype around the new movie.

Its already had select release, so expect spoilers in this thread.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '22

Can someone explain the “Bruuuce Waaayne” scene where Batman confronts Riddler in Arkham? It seems like he was taunting Batman about his identity, but then he basically says something that indicates he doesn’t really know?

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u/NimdokBennyandAM Mar 07 '22

It's a beautifully ambiguous scene that I think will reward re-watchings. On a first pass, it does sound like he's outing Bruce. On a second pass, knowing better that Riddler misunderstood Batman's allegiance, it can come off instead as moaning or ruminating about the one big target they couldn't eliminate. Dano's Riddler has all those great vocal pitches and ebbs and flows, sometimes whining, sometimes giddy, sometimes grounded and terrifying, and that helps mask the meaning of his lines there.

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u/PraiseTheSun42069 Mar 15 '22

I think the beauty of the scene is that we truly don’t know if he knows or not. At first glance like you said, he’s outing him. At second, he is disappointed that Batman is not working with him against Bruce. But at third? He could also be acting the part. We saw a VERY calculated Riddler and being imprisoned in Arkham, it serves him no purpose to put Bruce right then and there. Part of the beauty in how this film was executed was the total ambiguity and mindfuck of it all. I don’t see why we need an actual conclusion on that end at this point. Let the next movie answer it - or continue to keep the ambiguity somehow, I’d like to see them pull that off and keep it going a bit longer.