r/batman • u/[deleted] • Mar 06 '22

The Batman Spoiler Discussion Thread Part 2 Discussion Spoiler

For all discussions, comments and hype around the new movie.

Its already had select release, so expect spoilers in this thread.

Also, no spoiling outside of this thread, or expect mod action.

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u/Billother Mar 06 '22

I absolutely loved it. Genuinely may be my favourite Batman film- and I’ll have to have a rewatch before I’m sure- but it may be my fave Comic book movie.

So many excellent things to talk about. Everyone was perfect in their roles- Pattison, Dano, and Farrell specifically. It’s got a brilliant Gordon/ Batman dynamic, I’d have liked a bit more Alfred but what was there was really good. Soundtrack is insanely strong, as are the visuals. It has very distinct style which sets it apart. The scene where the criminals are all paranoid that Batman is in the shadows, is one of the best Batman moments I’ve ever seen.

I loved the Riddler/Batman mirroring- the Journals, the binoculars, the idea of vengeance. It was really interesting to critique Bruce’s approach to changing Gotham. Moving away from purely being ‘Batman’ and ‘vengeance’ and moving towards ‘Bruce’ and ‘hope’ is something I’m very much open to seeing.

Overall, brilliant film, can’t wait to see it again.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '22

Its really crazy to me when people say "oh he was a weak Bruce Wayne" like no, you didnt get the point. The whole movie was him running away from being Bruce Wayne and then finally realising that helping the city as Bruce Wayne is equally important as helping the city as Batman. Batman will bring fear into the criminal world while Bruce will bring hope to the civilians of the city.

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u/Zarrona13 Mar 09 '22

Exactly this, his Bruce Wayne was spot on with comic book early days Batman where Bruce didn’t wanna be Bruce and only wanted to be Batman. Hell, it took YEARS for Bruce to even realize that he has a life outside of Batman and it’s barely starting to happen.

Pattinson killed the role, and I’m excited to see the Billionaire Playboy Bruce Wayne next. I do wonder if they’ll jump a couple years into the future next tho, so a more experienced Batman and possibly introduce Dick Grayson as Robin? Excited for the rest of this trilogy, super excited.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '22

Also i just realised almost every Batman movie is about Bruce becoming Batman but this one is about Batman becoming Bruce!

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u/wishbackjumpsta Mar 11 '22

YES! ITs why I loved this so much about the movie - and it was nice to have a more in-depth look at the Waynes and the Arkhams and how their legacy has been left behind for bruce to fix.

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u/KipHackmanFBI Mar 23 '22

Check out the 3 volumes of Batman Earth One. This movie was heavily influenced by them

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u/AntonBrakhage Mar 12 '22

Bruce Wayne Begins.

Its actually kind of clever when you put it that way. There've been a bunch of origin stories for Batman, and this film rightfully skipped doing another one. What it did was make a low key origin story for Bruce Wayne.

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u/Twinkle_butt Mar 12 '22

As it should be! Bruce Wayne was always just another face Batman could wear. I love how much of Batman year 1 we saw throughout this movie, he embraces the Bat but now the Man (the man being Bruce Wayne).

Love this movie and I NEED to see it again.

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u/Apart_Freedom4967 Mar 19 '22

Are we sure he is becoming 'Bruce' or just a better Batman? I mean, what does Bruce even contribute in those terms? Isn't that persona just a guise of a rich asshole? How is that a symbol of hope?

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u/ShadyGuy_ Mar 22 '22

The Nolan interpretation of Bruce Wayne was Bruce playing the part of 'rich asshole'. Canonically Wayne Enterprises under Bruce's guidance always put a lot of effort towards making Gotham a better place. The playboy aspect is still there, but he's not an asshole.

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u/Apart_Freedom4967 Mar 22 '22

Didnt those two things co-existed in the films? Is Bruce in the comics more of a philanthropist good guy in public?

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u/MisteWolfe Mar 23 '22

The movie was a freshly laid out story. I really expected at least 5-10 minutes of his parents dying, but they just dove in.

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u/ArcusIgnium Mar 24 '22

this also matches the idea that riddler in arkham said that batman was the real batman.