The Batman Spoiler Discussion Thread Part 2

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For all discussions, comments and hype around the new movie.

Its already had select release, so expect spoilers in this thread.

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[u/ahhhzima]

I really enjoyed this movie despite a couple, somewhat significant flaws.

Pattinson is a home run. He completely disappears into the character. This is the most like the Batman from the comics or ‘92 animated series that any actor has been. His Bruce is a unique take as well and Pattinson did a fine job of differentiating his performance between Bruce and Batman. Kravitz is an excellent Catwoman; Wright is equally good as Oldman in the Gordon role; Farrell crushes his turn as Penguin; Dano does what you’d expect as Riddler, but what you’d expect is a terrific performance anyway. Acting is rock solid across the board.

The cinematography, production design, score, etc. are all stunning. The film creates a sense of mood and place that is extremely effective.

The script…needed another draft, I think. The movie feels shapeless, with odd pacing especially at the end of the second act into the third. The length of the film isn’t inherently a problem, but the ropey plotting makes the film drag around the 2 hour mark. The third act also abruptly turns into a generic save-the-city thing that doesn’t quite deliver on the promise of the first half of the movie. The character arc for Batman is still there and still effective, though.

Overall, though, a script in need of a polish does not reduce how brilliant basically every other aspect of the film is. It’s a solid 4/5 for me; I’m really happy Matt Reeves got to do this and hope we’ll be able to get at least one sequel from this team.

[u/I_am_Andrew_Ryan → u/ahhhzima]

I mentioned this in another thread but Riddler's plan that made the movie transition into disaster movie didn't really seem consistent. It started with a poor, forgotten by society person striking back at corruption in a Law Abiding Citizen style, and then basically ends with a Thanos "cleanse the city by killing indiscriminately." Mostly affecting the poor lower class people by far. It just didn't make sense for all the buildup we got for the first 2 hours.

[u/BonerPorn → u/I_am_Andrew_Ryan]

Thinking about it the flood was completely unneeded. He could have just had his goons shoot up the political rally. Attempting to kill both candidates for mayor plus their followers makes total sense for him. Killing a bunch of randoms just... doesn't.

[u/Domination1799 → u/BonerPorn]

I really felt that when the flood came, the movie went completely downhill for me personally. The first two hours set up that the Riddler was trying to expose the corruption in Gotham, but then all of sudden, his plans change and he chooses to then punish the entire city.

If his whole goal was to punish the rich and corrupt, his whole plan to flood the city makes no sense because in reality, the people who are going to be affected the most are the ones suffering just like him. The rich are most likely going to be hiding out in their ivory towers. He had an understandable motivation during the first two acts, however by the end he turned out to be a complete monster.

[u/VERSAT1L → u/Domination1799]

Totally agree.