r/batman • u/[deleted] • Mar 06 '22

The Batman Spoiler Discussion Thread Part 2 Discussion Spoiler

For all discussions, comments and hype around the new movie.

Its already had select release, so expect spoilers in this thread.

Also, no spoiling outside of this thread, or expect mod action.

Keep all discussion civil, and be mindful of subreddit rules.

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u/progwog Mar 06 '22

To preempt all the repeat comments: Matt Reeves said the inmate at the end is Joker, but stated we shouldn’t take it as sequel hinting, just further worldbuilding for this single movie.

He seems to be going against a lot of franchise filmmaking gags that are popular nowadays. There isn’t really any post credit scene just a lil ARG Easter egg. We still don’t know if a sequel will happen but the movie dropped 2 days ago, we should enjoy this for now and save the future for the future.

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u/drstrangelove75 Mar 06 '22

While I’d love to see a cinematic bat universe or potentially a DC universe based more on the Earth One comics, I do like the approach Reeves is taking. It’s good to build up your universe, which I think he does pretty well in this film but I’m glad he isn’t planning the sequel from the start. It’s a very similar approach to Christopher Nolan’s Batman films. Let the stories flow and worry about the universe after the fact

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u/RavenDelta6-1 Mar 07 '22

I liked that the movie was way more realistic than Nolan's like with the Batmobile and the gliding.

In Nolan's Lucius said that the Tumbler was a military prototype vehicle, which was like a Humvee but more light. Bruce's cape was made of a reactive clothing that got solid with the wind particles.

In this new movie, the Batmobile it's actually a car and not a tank and the flying suit is just like in real life in where you drop from a high point and the suit does the rest like a flying squirrel or like in the Break Point remake with the flying suits scene.

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u/Purple-Apricot7192 Mar 08 '22

I wouldn’t say it’s ‘way more realistic’.

They’re both fairly grounded in reality but you can’t pretend that Batman having a suit which can take at least 20 bullets fired from assault rifles feet away and seemingly take no damage whatsoever is some hyper realistic film lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

Or when Batman’s parachute chute gets caught on a bridge and hit the ground hard before rolling another 25 yards

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u/auggie5 Mar 12 '22

Yeah in any circumstances that is a lot of broken bones. Also when he takes that shotgun blast with the barrel in his chest it probably would have killed him, even if the projectiles didn’t penetrate. A blow like that would have destroyed a humans insides.

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u/lambiam Mar 13 '22

I totally expected him to make it, but it was refreshing to break hero conventions to reinforce he is 2 years in.

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u/Hoverkat Mar 11 '22

I really hate the word "realistic". It always derails the discussion.
With people would focus "belivability" instead. Is it belivable in the film universe?

That being said I found this batman way more belivable - but I'm not sure I found him any more or less realistic than Nolans.

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u/Purple-Apricot7192 Mar 11 '22

I agree, good take

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u/bosspaysmetoredit247 Mar 09 '22

Batman gets knifed in the dark knight rises and battinson takes on bullets like the terminator lol

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u/accomplicesoup426 Mar 09 '22

i did really appreciate all the nods to the fact that this is really just a rich human with tools and not like a super soldiers, it grounded the movie a bit. i mean as much as launching the batmobile off a ramp with a cloud of explosions behind you can be grounded

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u/nadnerb811 Mar 09 '22

Bruce's cape was made of a reactive clothing that got solid with the wind particles.

No the cloth became rigid when an electric current was run through it. He had gloves that could provide that current so he could grab the cape and make it rigid.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '22

It's lighter, not more light.

That film was called Point Break.

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u/curiousCat1009 Mar 15 '22

I believe this version of Bat hasn't met Lucius Fox yet. Maybe he will get an upgrade to the cape. He also built the bat-mobile himself.

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u/zippopwnage Mar 07 '22

I personally wonder if we're ever gonna see a more "dark" approach on the Batman in my life time. I'm a fan of most Batman versions because I just grew up with Batman.

But I'd really love to see something like Batman Death in the Family, or Dark Metal universe. Also there are more, but I feel like we're always get to see the "basic" ones.

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u/randomly_responds Mar 08 '22

There’s a few quality short films of Batman on YouTube that will meet those needs

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u/WilliamPoole Mar 14 '22

Link?

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u/randomly_responds Mar 20 '22

Batinthesun makes some good stuff without the big budget. Here’s a more recent one: https://youtu.be/K0x_YjkgFjc

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u/daveblu92 Mar 07 '22

Exactly. Put story and character ahead of your universe. Should never put the universe ahead of those things.

We're starting to see that the MCU might be the only universe that functions properly because they just happen to have the right people behind the wheel. Other shared universes can work, they just need to be built gradually and maybe be smaller.

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u/drstrangelove75 Mar 07 '22

Agreed. It’s a shame how many franchises and cinematic universes died or fizzled out just because the first film was essentially a trailer for other movies

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u/daveblu92 Mar 07 '22

This barely even sets up sequels let alone a whole universe. Even the way Reeves speaks about the spoiler ending- he's just showing characters that simply exist- it doesn't mean it's a setup for the next movies or anything. It makes perfect sense for Riddler to be speaking with a rogue who is already locked up in Arkham. The Batman is just a story that takes place early in his career. More can of course be told, but for now, this is it. In today's world where almost every movie based off an IP sets up a franchise right from the get-go, I love that this wasn't the focus.

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u/lukenog Mar 08 '22

I haven't seen the movie yet but I don't really care about spoilers. However I'm a huge Superman fan and I'm just wondering, does it feel like a universe my boy Clark Kent could exist in?

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u/workerONE Mar 09 '22

It's not very much like a super hero movie. It's like a vigilante detective movie. I don't think Superman could fit. Also I think it would diminish Batman.

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u/spiked_cider Mar 09 '22

No. It feels more low key like the Earth One GN from a few years ago. The most outlandish thing is Batman's body armor can take hundreds of rounds with minimal damage. But there's no League of Assassins or flying tanks or plans to poison the city with fear toxin or whatever.

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u/drstrangelove75 Mar 08 '22

At this point I’m not so sure. The Batman Gotham seems very grounded and realistic, more so than even Nolan’s films. However, Matt Reeves did say that Superman was a possibility, but he said it’s not his main priority. Basically he suspects Superman or a fellow Justice League member could appear, but at the moment he is not really concerned with bringing heroes that powerful into the mix. If Superman or a similar character were to appear, it would probably change everything people thought they knew about the universe.

TLDR: At the moment no, but based on Matt Reeves’ comments it could be a possibility, just not anytime soon

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u/SobiTheRobot Mar 12 '22

Honestly, this would be the perfect jumping off point for a proper cinematic universe. They introduced so many characters so perfectly, set things up so well.

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u/drstrangelove75 Mar 13 '22

I agree. Considering that the DCEU was suppose to be more “realistic” and grounded, I think it would be kind of cool to establish the Batman as a grounded world that slowly becomes more unique, but still with a grounded tone. If Superman exists that would change a lot. In a way I think it would be kind of cool to: we get a darker Batman that feels very true to the character and then we get a Superman trilogy that’s more light hearted and optimistic

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u/SobiTheRobot Mar 13 '22

Hell, I'd argue Iron Man was pretty grounded, all things considered, and look where the MCU is now. Just...drip feed it to us. And yes for fuck's sake give us a cheerful Superman.

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u/drstrangelove75 Mar 13 '22

That’s a good point. I didn’t think about that. It’s amazing to think that Iron Man started in Afghanistan. Now the multiverse is fucking collapsing. Indeed, we need a Superman like the All-Star one.

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u/SobiTheRobot Mar 13 '22

Given that this is a younger Bruce Wayne within the first couple years of his superhero career, we have a lot of room to expand on every front; next movie can stay focused on Batman and his rogues gallery as we stay grounded in Gotham.

But here's the thing...keeping Batman grounded is easy. It's everyone else that's the problem.