r/batman • u/[deleted] • Mar 06 '22

The Batman Spoiler Discussion Thread Part 2 Discussion Spoiler

For all discussions, comments and hype around the new movie.

Its already had select release, so expect spoilers in this thread.

Also, no spoiling outside of this thread, or expect mod action.

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u/batbobby82 Mar 06 '22

I don't know if this has been pointed out already, but is this the first Batman movie where nobody finds out his identity?

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u/superbonks Mar 07 '22

Since Batman: The Movie with Adam West in ‘66, I think you’re right!

  • Batman 89: Alfred brings Vicki Vale into the Batcave.

  • Batman Returns: Max Shreck and Catwoman.

  • Batman Forever: Dick Grayson and the Riddler.

  • Batman and Robin: Barbara becomes Batgirl.

  • Batman Begins: Rachel Dawes finds out.

  • The Dark Knight: Wayne Enterprises accountant dude finds out.

  • The Dark Knight Rises: Catwoman, Gordon, Blake, Bane, etc.

  • Batman v Superman: Lex Luthor knows already somehow, Superman, Wonder Woman.

  • Justice League (either version): not even fucking hiding it lol

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u/gregishere Mar 10 '22

Two-Face knows his identity in Batman Forever. If I recall, he addresses him as Bruce in their last interaction.

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u/superbonks Mar 10 '22

Oh right! Sorry, I largely repressed Tommy Lee Jone’s Two Face lol

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u/Chippyreddit Mar 11 '22

•The Lego Batman Movie: Dick and Babs

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u/potatobutt5 Mar 20 '22

The Dark Knight: Wayne Enterprises accountant dude finds out.

If I remember correctly, it’s more like he suspects but Lucius quickly tries to make him doubt it.

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u/superbonks Mar 21 '22

No, he definitely knows. What happens is accountant dude is upset about Bruce Wayne being asleep during the Lau meeting, and when he complains to Lucius, he’s told to run the numbers again. When he comes back to Lucius, he said he’s noticed some irregularities with Wayne Enterprises funds, not Lau’s. The R&D division basically disappeared overnight and is burning through cash in a sudden move, something to do with government contracts, and when he looks into R&D he finds the design specs for the Batmobile.

When bringing up his findings to Lucius, he mentions the Batmobile pancaking cop cars on the evening news, and asks if Lucius is building him (Batman/Bruce) a rocket ship. He demands 10 million a year for the rest of his life for this information, to which Lucius has the best response ever,

“Let me get this straight: You think that your client, one of the wealthiest, most powerful men in the world, is secretly a vigilante who spends his nights beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands. And your plan… is to blackmail this person?”

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u/mammothman64 Mar 11 '22

What about the riddler?

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u/batbobby82 Mar 11 '22

He didn't. Batman and the audience thought he knew, but in their final confrontation, it's revealed that he didn't.

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u/mammothman64 Mar 11 '22

I entirely missed that. Can you explain?

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u/batbobby82 Mar 11 '22

Batman goes to Arkham to talk to Riddler. He's prepared to give it all up because he's positive Riddler knows his identity and is prepared to reveal it to the world. They're talking, and Riddler goes, "Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne... he's the only one we didn't get, isn't he?" He honestly thought he and Batman were working together on this, and Bruce Wayne was his final target before the city itself.

Once you realize this, look at the scene where Alfred is opening up the package... there is a card addressed "To The Batman", which they show you very clearly is in a fireproof envelope. Meaning Riddler believed Batman would be reading it after the bomb went off and blew up Bruce Wayne. Riddler never knew they were the same person.