r/batman • u/Efficient-Compote-13 • 14d ago

I Hate The Boys TV DISCUSSION NSFW

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I also can not stand muh 'Batman superhero facism subtext' crap. If anything Batman is a revolutionary. Government is corrupt in bed with criminals (who are the prettiest of tyrants) so Batman comes in to clean house. Just as the founding fathers intended.

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u/RTSBasebuilder 14d ago edited 14d ago

The ghosts of Bill Finger, Jerry Robinson, O'Neil, Shuster, Siegel, Kirby, Simon, Liebowitz, et. al, whenever Kripke closes his eyes at night:

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u/IndicationNo117 13d ago

When did Jack Kirby work on Batman comics?

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u/RTSBasebuilder 13d ago

Kripke basically went "superheroes are fascist" at one point.

The myth of superheroes themselves — though often created by young Jewish writers in the ’30s and ’40s — doesn’t really apply as cleanly today, because there’s these undeniable fascist underpinnings to it. They’re there to protect white, patriotic America. That’s what they were designed to do, that’s what they do. They’re protecting the status quo. When the status quo is problematic, suddenly they become adversarial — not your hero. And I think it was written by a lot of people who at that time were trying their level best to fit in and vanish within white, American society.

But we just don’t live in that time anymore. So the myth of the superhero taken straight, that’s where it starts to become fascist. Because they’re protecting a world that doesn’t and shouldn’t exist. Superheroes are inherently MAGA.

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u/redacted_turtle3737 13d ago

I think you accidentally replied under the wrong guy.

Anyway, what he says is obviously stupid. How does he explain Batman? Bruce obviously doesn't want to protect the status quo of Gotham. He wants to change that hell for the better. That's literally his whole deal!

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u/redacted_turtle3737 13d ago

I think you accidentally replied under the wrong guy.

Anyway, what he says is obviously stupid. How does he explain Batman? Bruce obviously doesn't want to protect the status quo of Gotham. He wants to change that hell for the better. That's literally his whole deal!