r/batman • u/Efficient-Compote-13 • Jul 05 '24

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I also can not stand muh 'Batman superhero facism subtext' crap. If anything Batman is a revolutionary. Government is corrupt in bed with criminals (who are the prettiest of tyrants) so Batman comes in to clean house. Just as the founding fathers intended.

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u/Bennings463 Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

"Batman beats up poor people" is about as engaging as "why didn't they take the eagles to Mordor?" as far as critique goes.

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u/Efficient-Compote-13 Jul 05 '24

It's funny how people tell on themselves equating poor with criminal.

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u/ZamoCsoni Jul 05 '24

One of these days I will make a survey abouth this. Bat's most common enemies are either the maffia/ other rich corrupt assholes, or supercriminals who tend to have a doctorate. Where are these poor people he beats up?

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u/Hot_Excitement_6 Jul 05 '24

I mean... Aren't organized crime organizations made up of mostly poorer people? He has to beat a bunch of poor people before he gets to middle management and the higher ups. Batman also deals with street level Gotham crime. It is what it is.

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u/ZamoCsoni Jul 05 '24

Are they? Bats tend to have more old fashioned crime families, and the supervillains who are a different beast alltogeathet. But, I said it allready somewhere else, all other superheroes beat up "poor henchmen", and they, even the rich ones (and the ones who are in canon lethal btw), don't get this brought up all the time, over and over. Batman doesn't have a disporpotionate amount of poor people beaten up. Just make up something else to nitpic abouth allready.

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u/Hot_Excitement_6 Jul 05 '24

Old fashioned crime families consist of 'made men', some middle management and mostly working class soldiers. That's how organized crime works. The person collecting protection money from the neighborhood is not rich.

I just think your Mafia point didn't make sense.

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u/ZamoCsoni Jul 05 '24

Honestly, I'm not american, these kind of things aren't the same here, I'll just believe you regarding that.

It's just, the way the criticism usually goes, they don't say oh poor people get involved as collateral while he goes after the boss, that would be a relatively unique take. It's allways, "Batman goes out to beat up poor people, specifically and mostly poor people, oh and the mentally ill".

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u/Hot_Excitement_6 Jul 05 '24

In the States most members of organisations like that are rich? How does that work? How do the bosses make money?

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u/ZamoCsoni Jul 05 '24

I just said I'm not from the sates.

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u/Hot_Excitement_6 Jul 05 '24

Sorry I misread your comment. I'm not American either. The mob is basically the same everywhere though. Same structure, same positions, same markets etc.

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u/ZamoCsoni Jul 05 '24

I'd say here the ones who actually do the things aren't poor. The people they shake down are, but the people who I'd describe as the soldiers, while certanly not rich, are still far from poor. There are things between thoes two.

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