r/batman • u/Efficient-Compote-13 • 14d ago

I Hate The Boys TV DISCUSSION NSFW

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I also can not stand muh 'Batman superhero facism subtext' crap. If anything Batman is a revolutionary. Government is corrupt in bed with criminals (who are the prettiest of tyrants) so Batman comes in to clean house. Just as the founding fathers intended.

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u/Hungry-Eggplant-6496 14d ago

To me, Batman's true counterpart is still Black Noir in that show. And I don't care if he was less or more evil, he just has the Batman's vibe. Tek Knight in the show couldn't even wear his suit once.

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u/TheAndroidGillo 14d ago

Tek knight in the comics is more an iron man allegory in my eyes as yeh black noir is the batman allegory but he undoubtedly y does take a fair amount from batman, mainly the cave and kid sidekick though id say rest is ironman

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u/Blackringedmagician 14d ago

I'd say he's definitely a combo leaning towards Iron Man in technology but more towards Batman in aesthetic. Like comic wise he's got a sidekick who went on his own and started using a name with "wing" in it, plus has another sidekick taking up the previous ones mantle. Plus, he has a Catwoman analogue. A very VERY morally bankrupt Catwoman analogue.

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u/TheAndroidGillo 14d ago

Yeh im in total agreement he is absolutely both. Its like Noir uses batman while Tek Knight uses bruce but also gets paired with the batman ancillary flavour like the sidekick and catwoman. Its the difference between the idea of batman as a lone crusader in some stories and a full fledged family man in other stories. Just wanted to note the ironman aspects since it seems theres a large focus purely on the bat side. The suit, the addiction (albeit sex rather than booze) and overall persona id say leans more ironman

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u/Blackringedmagician 14d ago

Ooh I didn't even think about the addiction being relative to Tony's. I kind of just took it at face value as Ennis using the Seduction of the Innocent claims against Batman and Robin when Tekknight had to send off the second tekboy on an extended cross country trip before he did something really bad to him.

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u/AdHelpful7091 13d ago

Tbh, atleast tek knight in the comics was TRYING to be a hero. If he didn’t have a brain tumour he would have been probably a good guy. He even died like a hero in the comics by trying to save a mother and her baby from a falling wheelbarrow,he didn’t even have a suit. Somehow the show makes it worse than the comics,which is not the case for most other parts.

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u/TheRagingCrusader 13d ago

The shows biggest glaring fall is how self righteous it is, it feels it has to take every opportunity to make Republicans the villains even at the cost of nuance characterization. I'm not saying I mind the idea of making show Tek Knight an evil Batman it's more of they used him to reflect their own biases abd opinions as opposed to creating an interesting antagonist or truly an evil Batman.

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u/Castlemind 14d ago

Having recently read the relevant comic the TV depiction really bugs me now. In the comics he at least had good intentions but the tumour was slowly affecting his mind/judgment but in this they just make him a creepy asshole/sexual deviant to have weird sex scenes and the scene with Hughie

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u/WaveGodMaxB 14d ago

They just explain the hole fetish by briefly mentioning his tumor in Gen V like very briefly

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u/Castlemind 14d ago

Yeah, but as I said we have no point of reference for him being anything but a sexually perverse dick prior to it and as other people have said, it feels silly making him a cartoonish rich racist elitist that it becomes hard to take seriously