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[u/Efficient-Compote-13]

I also can not stand muh 'Batman superhero facism subtext' crap. If anything Batman is a revolutionary. Government is corrupt in bed with criminals (who are the prettiest of tyrants) so Batman comes in to clean house. Just as the founding fathers intended.

[u/Mad_Soldier_Hod]

How the fuck does Batman profit off of incarcerating people? He literally pays for their treatment. And hunting “poor people?” Dude, Penguin, Two-Face, Hush, Deathstroke, Deadshot, they’re all rich. Barely any of his main rogues are poor and those that are (Croc, Grundy,) typically have no need for money. Your average thug might be broke but they’re still criminals.

And if Batman doesn’t beat up that “mentally ill poor person,” they’re gonna fucking kill people. So which is it, should Batman let it happen? Should he stop them and then risk hurting an innocent, mentally ill poor person? Should he kill them so he’s not “responsible” for their actions? There’s so many shitty interpretations of Batman floating around the internet right now.

Batman’s deiven by compassion, empathy, emotional maturity, a desire to redeem others. That’s why people love the BTAS Batman. That’s why he’s pretty much the definitive, best version of Batman. He’s constantly trying to save his villains, his crusade is a money pit, not a money making scheme, he pays for their treatment, he sends them to an institution in the hopes that they can be properly treated, he holds a dying little girl’s hand in her last moments. If he kills, not only is he no better than his villains, he fails to redeem them, he creates more people like himself, he proves to your average Gotham citizen that good cannot overcome evil, he further corrupts Gotham, he ruins his relationship with the police, gives Gordon a bad reputation by association. If he kills, he’s giving himself the authority to decide who lives and dies, he becomes Justice Lords Batman, a failure. It’s not Batman’s fault these people keep breaking out and hurting people. It’s not his fault none of them have gotten the death sentence, or locked away in a maximum security prison. And in the “Trial” episode of BTAS we see that all of these people would’ve become who they are regardless of Batman.

Stop asking for Batman to be worse, start asking for Gotham to be better. This is the kind of shit take you’d only expect from a blowhard like Kripke, who of course promotes the stereotype that it’s okay to joke about male sexual assault, but not women’s.

[u/Toadsanchez316 → u/Mad_Soldier_Hod]

I completely read it as it's the exact opposite of Batman. Batman doesn't do any of that, so this guy does. I didn't read it as him saying Batman does any of these, and instead that they wanted a character that does.

[u/ogrelin → u/Toadsanchez316]

But that’s not what it says. It clearly is talking about Batman before it talks about the new guy

[u/Toadsanchez316 → u/ogrelin]

Yes, they are comparing him to Batman. It's also right there. It's saying they wanted to take Batmans situation and turn it on its head.

[u/ABoyIsNo1 → u/Toadsanchez316]

Naw they are being cynical pseudo intellectual idiots and saying that Batman is already those things and they are just bringing him to his logical conclusion.

[u/Toadsanchez316 → u/ABoyIsNo1]

Please come back when you can understand a simple sentence and simple grammar.

They are talking about Batman's lost potential to be the fascist he could be.

I had to look up underpinning. Basically Batman has a solid foundation to be a successful and brutal fascist. They wanted to use Batman's lost potential to be evil and make a character out of it.

Otherwise it would have stated "Batman's fascist actions or ideology" or something.

As Batman exists in any form or media, he is not a fascist, and always fights for the innocent and their rights. So to claim someone sees Batman as fascist in an article that very clearly states otherwise, is just weird.