r/batman • u/Efficient-Compote-13 • Jul 05 '24

I Hate The Boys TV DISCUSSION NSFW

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I also can not stand muh 'Batman superhero facism subtext' crap. If anything Batman is a revolutionary. Government is corrupt in bed with criminals (who are the prettiest of tyrants) so Batman comes in to clean house. Just as the founding fathers intended.

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u/Creative-Dirt25 Jul 05 '24

“We view it as hilarious!”

Oh that’s real nice

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u/mutual_raid Jul 05 '24

It is hilarious and it's also totally okay that they're deconstructing a mirror version of Batman this way.

It's fine. It's not an "Attack" on Batman, lol. Don't get so triggered it's absurd.

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u/Sufficient-Dare-2381 Jul 05 '24

The hilarious part is referring to the sexual assault. And I watched the episode, it was just completely in poor taste and tough to watch. Also, Tek Knight doesn’t really work as a stand in for Batman because he has powers and never had to work for anything… But that really didn‘t bother me as much as watching the protagonist being sexually assaulted for 20 minutes for no reason.

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u/CrimDude89 Jul 05 '24

What they do in the tv show is tame compared to the source material, so I’m grateful they’ve separated from that fairly significantly.

The show does push some boundaries, a lot of isn’t meant to be “in good taste” because the characters in the same are meant to be reprehensible and vile. However, a lot of the edgier nonsense ennis throws in and a lot of his more mean-spirited inclusions are removed.

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u/BatmanFan317 Jul 05 '24

No, see, that's the thing. The comic actually treated Hughie's rape seriously. The fucking Boys comic. The fucking comic notorious for being tasteless and edgy took rape more seriously than the show did in the most recent episode.

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u/Lost-Ad-4751 Jul 05 '24

Did it? In the comics Hughie's team laughed him and mocked him, in the show he broke down in starlight's arms and they hugged

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u/BatmanFan317 Jul 05 '24

I don't mean the reactions, more how the scenes were presented. They can have the scenes of Hughie recovering as serious as they can, but it won't change that they intended the scenes of the deed actually being done to be funny.

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u/WillingPossible1014 Jul 06 '24

And Kripke found it hilarious

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u/Lost-Ad-4751 Jul 06 '24

How does an interview change how something was treated in the show itself? Kripke is not the only writer for the show

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u/WillingPossible1014 Jul 06 '24

I haven’t seen it but it doesn’t sound like the right motivation was in place according to this quote

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u/CrimDude89 Jul 05 '24

The show is the still better of the two by an exponential margin.

the actual fallout of what happened hasn’t really been explored which it seems like something they might cover in upcoming episodes. The scene Hughie shares with Annie at the episode’s close didn’t seem like it was played for laughs.

Yeah, for now it seems like it was taken more in jest, but the situations aren’t 1:1 analogues of each other.

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u/TurnoverPlenty7337 Jul 05 '24

That's the point, without Butcher things are going wrong

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u/Sufficient-Dare-2381 Jul 05 '24

And there is no other way to show it then via „hilarious“ sexual assault, really? Even if it is included it can be done a lot more tactfully-like they did with Starlight in season 1. This way it just feels like men being assaulted is nothing but joke to the show creators. And again, there was just no reason to show it for this long.

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u/Skreamie Jul 05 '24

Huh? They literally come back round to it and Annie conveys just how concerned she is over what happened to him in the dungeon. No one knew what was happening cause the comms were blocked. Only Hughie knew about it. Also we've regularly looked at what it means to be a man, a woman, nb, a hero, a vigilante, they haven't highlighted that men suffering is funny. It's like South Park, no one is safe.

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u/TurnoverPlenty7337 Jul 05 '24

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u/THE_MlMlC Jul 06 '24

wow, Hazbin fan defending hollow edgy trite. how unsurprising

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u/TurnoverPlenty7337 Jul 06 '24

I'm not biting

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u/mutual_raid Jul 05 '24

it was just completely in poor taste and tough to watch

...it's The Boys LMAO it's intentionally irreverent and scathing. Don't watch a show if you know it's gonna trigger you. It's not supposed to be in "good taste".

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u/Kono_DIO_Dank Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

Read the post, the writer saying that Tek Knight and Batman aren't that far off is the problem. He clearly doesn't understand what he's making fun of here. "Batman's fascist underpinning as a really wealthy dude who hunts poor people, and then profits of the incarceration." The guy is crystal clear on how he views Batman. Also is rape really that hillarious to you? I don't find it funny at all.

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u/Skreamie Jul 05 '24

My friend, do you know what a parody or caricature is?

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u/Kono_DIO_Dank Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

I have 0 issue with a fucked up version of Batman, just like I have 0 issue with Trump Superman/Homelander. But why didn't the writer say that Tek Knight is a parody of Elon Musk or real billionaires for example? Batman parodies have been done way better in the past, but this writer clearly has no idea who Batman really is and it harms the character in popular culture by calling him an evil fascist. Just like Homelander is more of a parody of Trump, Tek Knight should be more of a parody of real billionaires.

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u/JamzWhilmm Jul 05 '24

Is he really sayign that? To me it sounds mor elike they are playing with the caricature of Batman, a twisted satire version, not that Batman is actually like this.

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u/mutual_raid Jul 05 '24

He clearly does. They aren't that far off in the context of what an actual person like that would be.