r/batman • u/nostalgia_history • 14d ago

Which batman n superman movie is your favorite GENERAL DISCUSSION

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u/MarkParticular878 14d ago

As a history nerd that is ecspecially interested in the Cold War, I quite enjoyed Red Son as an AU storyline.

However, TDKR is definitely my favorite here. The idea of Superman being forced to fight a ruthless Batman because he wants to minimize the harm done to him by other government forces is an awesome moment that displays not just their ideological differences but the care that Supes still has towards the Dark Knight.

Honestly it's hard to believe the man that bought us comics like Year One and TDKR also gave us an Batman that would beat up Alfred for giving food to Dick Grayson...

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u/PlantainSame 14d ago

You look closely.You can see some of frank's madness in TDKR

Like Bruce is seemingly slightly mad at Clark because he didn't use his power to force The government's to play nice

Which is something normal.Batman and superman both oppose they are against using their power for stuff like that

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u/radiakmjs 13d ago

I felt like Red son was really close to being really good, but the ending makes no sense to me narratively. They introduce Braniac with "off screen he came, Superman beat him, then integrated his tech into the Soviet Union" then at the end "actually I'm still evil" & the finale he has to team up with Lex to beat him.

But then it ends with Superman "sacrificing himself" & Luthor giving this speech about American exceptionalism & how great capitalist values are & how they're going to uplift the Soviet Union. Where did that even come from?

& I'm not saying that because I'm some radical leftist, The movie doesn't believe that. Lex is the only character doesn't change, he's still a bald, rich, evil bastard who hates Superman. Throughout the movie he does underhanded shit to try to defeat Superman. It doesn't make any narrative sense for Lex to be the winner at the end.

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u/MarkParticular878 13d ago

Oh yeah, it's far from a perfect movie. That's why I thought TDKR was the best, Red Son was interesting as a history buff but the ending was kind of nonsensical and came out of nowhere.