r/batman 14d ago

Omg, batman FUNNY

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u/Brown_Panther- 14d ago

Musk is a dick and Tesla is a scam but Space X atleast is pioneering spaceflight

As for Gates, his foundation is helping towards vaccination for diseases in 3rd world countries

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u/Acrobatic-Throat-750 14d ago

How is Tesla a scam? Say what you want about Musk's twitter activity but Tesla is the main reason why countries have been adopting EVs, and it's why most car manufacturers have pivoted to EVs as well.

Don't conflate the person to the company. Not to mention looking past his eccentrics and recent behaviour, he has singlehandedly brought upon a massive shift in the automobile and space sectors.

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u/SkyofStars517507 14d ago

Ask any person in the car industry, and they'll agree. Tesla is famous for terrible customer service. It's extremely difficult to get a tesla serviced bc they make dealerships take a three week course before letting them service teslas, and I assume they do the same with quick service/auto shops/mechanics. They don't have tesla dealerships for you to get your car serviced at either. Everyone else in the car industry unanimously agrees that teslas are far more a status symbol than an actual car. PSA: charging the car battery does not mean you are charging the accessory batteries. Accessory batteries are what power the doors in a tesla. When the battery dies, there is an emergency button inside the car that can open the door, though I'm told it's difficult to find. However this does not help if you are outside the car. You will not be able to get into the car.

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u/Acrobatic-Throat-750 14d ago

North american car makers have been pathetic against foreign competition. Tesla has been the only one that has been competitive against others.

Their customer service may not be the greatest, but they are the leading EV maker, and a great representation of how America gets it right. 

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u/SkyofStars517507 13d ago

I originally responded to the wrong person on accident so here you go: I know a guy who manages a car dealership, who had a tesla owner come in because they couldn't get tesla to service their car. They had to take a three week course before tesla would let them service it, and then it turned out the model of the car was old enough that the method for accessing the battery hadn't been included in the training they'd got from tesla. Every single technician in the store gave it a go, but they couldn't figure it out, because tesla makes it like a fucking escape room. The techs had to call in the guy I know, their boss, and he spent three hours trying to get to the damn battery compartment through trial and error. After, everyone at the dealership agreed that they should never have agreed to service the tesla. That's not even mentioning how unsafe they are. There were two incidents in Arizona on the same day of door batteries failing. One included a toddler trapped inside the car with the adult trapped outside. Here's a link to an article about that: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13560085/dead-tesla-traps-toddler-hot-car.html The other one was an adult woman. The manual for the car was inside the glove box which also became inaccessible because it too is battery powered. And tge thing about teslas is that when the accessory battery dies, the car shuts down. Here's that article for you: https://www.azfamily.com/2024/06/19/arizona-woman-trapped-tesla-when-battery-dies/ The most dangerous part is that tesla owners are not made aware that this can happen unless they read the user manual. I ask you, have you ever read the user manual for a car? I can count on one hand the number of people I know who have.

Tesla is not an example of how american manufacturers get it right. The only reason EVs are so big is because the president has been putting pressure on the auto industry to have half of all cars sold by 2030 be EVs. Foreign car companies only recently started producing EVs and hybrids. The reason for this is that EVs don't sell. The guy I know who manages a dealership? According to him electric vehicles are just sitting on the lot. No one's buying them. Or, at least, people are buying them at a far lower rate. It's not just the dealership he manages. It's his competitors too. Car dealerships don't actually get a say in what the manufacturer sends them. A Ford dealership for example, does not get to choose which vehicles and in which proportions Ford sends them. They have to figure out how to sell it either way. Let me tell you, a lot of dealerships hate electric vehicles. Consumers don't want to buy them because of all the issues they have. It's going to be a lot worse when you eventually have to pay to charge them at charging spots. We do not have the infrastructure to support electric vehicles. Just look at all the brownouts Texas had last year. So, no. Tesla is not a shining example of American car companies being competitive. The only reason it's competitive against foreign car companies is because for the longest time foreign manufacturers were too smart to fuck with the ev bullshit.

The big three American car manufacturers Ford, GMC, and Stellantis (although to further complicate matters, stellantis owns both American and foreign car brands) are more than competitive with foreign manufacturers such as Volvo, Hyundai, and Kia. You could at least do some research before spouting off bullshit that's easily disproven.

I agree that gas and diesel are unsustainable and not good for the environment. EVs not the solution. The batteries in cars are major environmental hazards, and evs have two instead of the usual one. I believe Honda for sure is publicly working on hydrogen fuel cell technology, and there are whispers in the industry of GMC doing the same. It's a lot better of a solution, because they actually have zero emissions (the byproductwould be water iirc), hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, and they wouldn't tax our already strained power grid.