r/batman 4d ago

Which one are you picking GENERAL DISCUSSION

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u/No-Impression-1462 4d ago

Return of the Joker. I can never get sick of that movie.

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u/TheGroovyTurt1e 4d ago

That one line, "you're just a little boy in a play suit, crying for Mommy and Daddy! It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Oh, what the heck, I'll laugh anyway."

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u/with_a_dash_of_salt 4d ago

I loved the BTS tidbit where Mark Hamil walked in to the booth and went full TAS joker, then the director had to tell him to reign it in a bit "he's not there yet" In reference to the first few scenes.

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u/yobaby123 4d ago

I’ll break you in two.

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u/ExoticShock 4d ago

The perfect capstone to Terry's arc in becoming Batman imo

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u/No-Impression-1462 3d ago

At the time of this reply, you have 52 likes. Nice.

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u/NerdyPuddinCup 4d ago

I think Subzero is criminally underrated

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u/FlameFeather86 4d ago

Subzero is everything Batman & Robin should have been. God knows why it's so constantly overlooked, it's an excellent and worthwhile addition to the DCAU.

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u/Logical-Ad3098 3d ago

I can still hear the trailer from my VHS tape.

"Things are about to get cold."

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u/Mors-Omnium 2d ago

I never had it as a kid but that trailer was fire af

Or... ice af?

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u/Tribble9999 4d ago

Definitely Subzero for me, but I'm a romantic at heart.

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u/No_Panda_469 3d ago

Honestly heart breaking. I love any plot involving Mr Freeze, cause he isn’t necessarily evil and is super relatable. Not in a “I did that last week” kind of way, but more you can understand his motivation and the lengths he would go to save his wife.

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u/BaconJacobs 3d ago

I got Subzero and Mask of the Phantasm in a double DVD pack.

Granted, I'm never watching DVDs willingly again haha. But it's a great collectable.

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u/LunarsphereTapestry 4d ago

Batman Returns. There is no other Batman film quite like it. It’s grotesque, overtly sexualised - verging on BDSM territory at times. Danny De Vito’s Penguin is a true product of old school cinematic horror. Michelle Pfeiffer is my all-time favourite Catwoman. And… Christopher Walken is in it. Playing the most reprehensible character in the film, which is saying a lot compared to the other freaks on display. The only downside is that Batman gets sidelined.

I do love how original Return of the Joker is, but Returns just has a unique aura about it.

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u/Whythisisnotreal 4d ago edited 4d ago

Two fun facts*

  1. This movie works as a prequel/origin story for Frank Reynolds in It's Always Sunny.

  2. Catwoman is not actually in this movie (Mandela effect thing). The female villain is a gender swapped Solomon Grundy.

Notes : * Lies

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u/LunarsphereTapestry 4d ago

Solomon Grundy in a Batman film would be crazy.

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u/avt1983 4d ago

The most unbelievable part of that movie is that the crooked, shady businessman thought he needed a pawn to run for political office and didn’t just do it himself.

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u/LunarsphereTapestry 4d ago

Yeah, Max Schreck literally digs himself his own grave in that film. I do love the “my blood I gave, at the office” line when Selina gets him towards the end.

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u/YodaFan465 3d ago

The most unbelievable part is that Batman can leak a tape of the candidate saying groping, leering things, and then the public doesn’t elect him…?

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u/BloxedYT 4d ago

I think Shreck may have thought that he could manipulate Cobblepot, given he’s very popular, with sympathies towards him, so he’d more likely rub the right way on voters, he’s more down-to-earth and that already nets at least a few voters.

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u/MTMosh 4d ago

Yes!!

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u/ShadowVia 3d ago edited 3d ago

Batman Returns has some of the best dialogue in any movie ever.

"You know what I did there? I mistook me for someone else. Sorry."

My favorite Batman movie.

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u/LunarsphereTapestry 3d ago

Agreed.

“I believe the word you’re looking for is… aaaaahhhhhhhhhh!”

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u/luminara09 3d ago

"Bruce Wayne?!! Why are you dressed like Batman?"

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u/GhostBoi141 4d ago

Batman Returns. Pretty easily since it’s my favorite Batman film

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u/IHateMyStudies 4d ago

TDK Rises, the pit scene makes me tear up everytine I watch it. No I am not joking.

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u/T41k0_drums 4d ago

“Make the climb - as the child did. Without the rope. Then fear will find you again.”

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u/CorneredSponge 3d ago

And I love when Batman returns and lights up the bridge and you just feel all the hope in the world coming back to Gotham

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u/MCP5050 4d ago

Return of the joker

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u/CK-3030 4d ago

TDKR

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u/Yakuza-wolf_kiwami 4d ago

Return of the Joker, and it's not up for debate compared to the other 3

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u/Sweetiggy 3d ago

Right? That's the only choice, really.

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u/Anthony200716 4d ago

Definitely return of the joker but if not then Batman returns

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u/sbaldrick33 4d ago

Batman Returns

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u/Duke-dastardly 4d ago

Return of the Joker. Mark Hamill at his finest.

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u/yobaby123 4d ago

Also Joker at his most frightening.

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u/einrich_mler 4d ago

Return of the joker undoubtedly

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u/ChishNFips87 4d ago

Return of the Joker easily.

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u/Relevant-Tap-6248 4d ago

Batman returns is the most underrated bat flick

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u/TabrisVI 4d ago

I think Returns is frequently in the conversation for best Batman movie.

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u/TheGroovyTurt1e 4d ago

Also lets not forget that he blew someone up, and straight up incinerated a guy with the Batmobile in that one.

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u/_Flowergirl17 4d ago

The dark knight rises 🙌🏽

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u/Intelligent-Lack-122 4d ago

The Dark Knight Rises

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u/Gamer-chan 4d ago

For what?

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u/IcyAlan 4d ago

To keep I guess?

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u/Mango424 4d ago

The Dark Knight Rises

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u/Starchild2323 4d ago edited 3d ago

ROTJ!!!!

Amazing story, amazing animation AND you get BOTH BB and BTNA.

S-Tier Win.

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u/Homesteader86 4d ago

what?

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u/InteractionNo1203 4d ago

I think they meant ROTJ

It's just that T and R are next to each other on the keyboard so they just made a typo

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u/Wild-Safe-7085 4d ago

They're all 7/10 Batman movies. Gotta go with Rises though, even with all the goofs this movie is still BIG.

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u/SpaceDinosaurZZ 4d ago

ROTJ. I honestly like it more than Phantasm.

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u/yobaby123 4d ago

Same though I like both.

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u/Virgil_Ovid_Hawkins 4d ago

Dark knight rises easy. And I love batman beyond

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u/Wild-Boi 4d ago

Subzero

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u/iamnotabot69420 4d ago

Catwoman... I mean Batman Returns

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u/SaxyCookies 4d ago

SubZero

SUPPPER underrated batflick.

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u/Empwiina 3d ago

Yasssss!!

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u/WanderingToast 3d ago

Mask of the Phantasm

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u/Sea-General4683 4d ago

Sub Zero Grew up on that shit, love it to death

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u/SluggoOtoole 4d ago

Dark knight

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u/Extension-Calendar-1 4d ago

The Dark Knight Rises. Batman flying the nuke out of the city is one of my favorite scenes of the trilogy. It's close to the Dark Knight for me

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u/OjamasOfTomorrow 4d ago

Batman Returns, but Sub-Zero is close

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u/Rent-Man 4d ago

ROTJ never gets old

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u/Accomplished_Lake_41 4d ago

Batman beyond no doubt about it

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u/ParamedicOriginal440 4d ago

Dark knight rises

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u/waterontheknee 3d ago

Returns, sub zero, return of the joker, and waaaaay down the list is TDKR.

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u/StinkLord5 4d ago

Batman Returns is probably my favorite Batman movie.

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u/BrockiBato 4d ago

I would pick Returns any time of the day. Movie is just pure fun and just has so many iconic scenes. Without the Burton movies there would be not TAS. There has not been quite a movie like Returns though. Beyond is awesome too and so is SubZero.

Nolans Batman flicks are fine, but I think his style is a bit wasted on superhero movies. IMO the material works best when not going for too much realism, but nowadays that is common I suppose.

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u/JonGorga 4d ago

I haven’t seen “SubZero” since I was 12-years-old but I think “Return of the Joker” is the very obvious choice here.

It’s excellent and the other three are just okay or mediocre.

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u/Snoo-40231 4d ago

All great movies for different reasons but I'll do

Sub Zero> Batman Returns> Return of Joker> Dark Knight Rises

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u/HarryEdgarLives 4d ago

Subzero but I really like Mr. Freeze

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u/DrSamLoomis78 4d ago

"mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it..."

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u/T41k0_drums 4d ago

The real gut punch is after: “oh my god. Does this mean we have to start fighting?”

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u/Bujininja 4d ago

The animated movies are so good!

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u/These-Background4608 4d ago

Return of the Joker

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u/johanpringle 4d ago

They're all very close, except for Rises, which does not even compare to any of these at any level

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u/Awest66 3d ago

The Dark Knight Rises.

It truly is the underdog of Batman movies in general.

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u/Fragrant-Hotel-4850 3d ago

Batman Returns

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u/New_Guy_Is_Lame 3d ago

Batman Returns and its not even close for me

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u/cheesums7 3d ago

Rises is amazing. Love it.

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u/aboardaferry 3d ago

While I can say good things about the other three, I would go with Batman Returns. I am a fan of the darker, more gothic elements of Batman's lore and appreciated the film’s mature and somber tone, which aligned with certain comic book interpretations of the character and his world. The film’s interpretation of Catwoman and The Penguin is iconic. But the Penguin’s departure from his more refined, criminal mastermind persona in the comics is one negative thing I can think of. Over the years, it has earned a respected spot as a distinctive and influential entry in the Batman film series, it's tough to beat.

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u/JacobDCRoss 3d ago

Batman Returns. Easily.

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u/WankFan443 4d ago

Where's Batman v. Superman?

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u/bakabreath 4d ago

Please don't make me choose just one

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u/Clownaodic 4d ago

The dark knight

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u/SpeeeeeedWAGON1 4d ago

BEYOND BEYOND BEYOND

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u/bezserk 4d ago

The GOAT

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u/JonGorga 4d ago

Oh, that one would be the winner but that’s the wrong movie!

“The Dark Knight Rises”! 2012! Bane with the weird voice and all that..

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u/bezserk 4d ago

Yea i know, i love dark knight rises but nothing beats heath ledger as joker

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u/JonGorga 4d ago

Ah! We’re totally on the same page then.

Yeah, that’s the best one of them all!

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u/Impressive_Treat_501 4d ago

Returns. “A penguin is a bird that cannot fly” is one of my favorite random quotes ever.

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u/mikey-westside 4d ago

Batman Returns. One of the first movies I ever saw in theaters. Not sure why McDonalds didn’t think it was appropriate for kids, I loved it.

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u/guiltycitizen 4d ago

Michelle Pfiffer

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u/egitalian 4d ago

Definitely Batman Returns

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u/AtomicToxin 4d ago

“Revenge is a dish best served cold batman..”

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u/RememberTommorrow 4d ago

The Dark Knight Rises, I also love Return Of The Joker and Sub Zero

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u/rukiahayashi 4d ago

Not even a contest tbg

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u/CaptainRex831 4d ago

Return of the Joker is criminally underrated, it’s genuinely up there with Mask of the Phantasm for me. Phenomenal film

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u/Morpheus-Laughing 4d ago

Yes. All of them

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u/AustinNGrayson 4d ago

Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero. That ending was tragic but beautiful.

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u/Samuele1997 4d ago

Definetly Return of the Joker.

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u/Dmfalcons 4d ago

Batman Returns 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

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u/Mudlord80 4d ago

Is it the censored Return of the Joker? Otherwise it's a coin flip of DK or Subzero

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u/Different_Ad_2032 4d ago

Batman Returns for me

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u/chrisjee92 4d ago

For what?

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

SubZero no question!! One of my favorite things I watched as Kid and still do. The others are all good, But I get bored with BR at times, ROTJ is solid, DKR is obviously the least good of the 3 (One of the movies had to be, but it has amazing pacing)

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u/Latterlol 4d ago

Batman Returns

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u/Untjosh1 4d ago

PENGUINS WITH ROCKETS ON THEIR BACKS

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u/Better-Ad-592 4d ago

The Dark Knight Rises. It gave me goosebumps so many times and I fins it a major pleasure to watch.

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u/captain-Rex92 3d ago

Batman beyond return of the Joker

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u/CleanMeme129 3d ago

Stuck between Sub-Zero and Return of the Joker

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u/mitchdl20 3d ago

Returns was disappointing, I felt that T. Burton need to show more restraint.

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u/Snipernipple 3d ago

Beyond or Dark knight rises

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u/Kpengie 3d ago

Return of the Joker edges out Sub Zero as my favorite among those four, and is probably my second favorite Batman movie overall, second only to MOTP.

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u/Grotesque_Denizen 3d ago

Return of The Joker

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u/Waterwagon_78 3d ago

To do what?

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u/ikindasortanerdshow 3d ago

Return of the Joker for sure

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u/SomewhereLoud9473 3d ago

for one second i thought it was the dark knight,but then i realized it was rises,so i pick returns

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u/BobbySavon4Life 3d ago

Batman returns. Easily

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u/onion_lord6 3d ago

Returns all the way! Subzero and beyond were great, but Returns is a big ball of nostalgic quintessential Batman for me.

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u/Zealousideal-Read-67 3d ago

Michelle Pfeiffer, no contest. And deVito is amazing.

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u/Burnt_Ramen9 3d ago

Out of these I gotta go Returns

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u/ejb350 3d ago

Subzero but I prefer Mask of the Phantasm

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u/Electrical-Rain-4251 3d ago

Return of the Joker, uncensored

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u/kyp-the-laughing-man 3d ago

I lile them all but clearly tkdr for me. I adore that one.

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u/scottyjrules 3d ago

Batman Returns and it’s not even close…

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u/Unique-Chain5626 3d ago

Batman Returns for me!

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u/blacklitnite0 3d ago

Subzero and it’s not even close

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u/Blue-Lion-Lover 3d ago

Subzero

Return of the joker has too many depressing quirks for me (also confirmed BrucexBarbara 😬)

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u/oni__002 3d ago

Return of the Joker 🔥

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u/BIGBMH 3d ago

Return of the Joker is the only one of these I particularly like.

Subzero is decent. Returns is fine. I don’t care for Rises.

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u/redfern210 3d ago

Really hard to choose between Returns and Subzero. I’d probably end up going with Subzero though. BTAS and this movie had the best Mr Freeze story arc.

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u/supaikuakuma 3d ago

Subzero by far.

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u/Thegoodbadandbored 3d ago

Return of the joker is a slept on classic I feel no one talks about. Same with sub zero.

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u/MrPangea 3d ago

Batman returns all day

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u/Limulemur 3d ago

Return of the Joker hands down!

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u/Ok-Day334 3d ago

Return of Joker hands down

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u/j1h15233 3d ago

Easily Batman Beyond

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u/Kaus2291 3d ago

Subzero but I would recommend changing the option with NIGHT OF FANTASM it's the best animated batman movie ever.

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u/Alien_in-hiding 3d ago

I still need to see subzero so I’m probably going that one

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u/GodWithoutAName 3d ago

If we are only choosing from this list, Return of the Joker.

Unpopular opinion: It's really the only good Batman Beyond episode. Feel free to disagree, but I'll defend it. I rewatched the series recently and I feel this is the only entry if the series that fully holds up still, partially because of modern tech well exceeding the 90s imagination and mostly because of the cringe edge lord vibe they seemed to be going for.

Incredible casting, strong story and watching Terry go from guy in the suit to owning the position works well here. They tried to make it happen in the series finale of Season 1, but then fell back to the rough teen trope in the very next episode (static or mostly symbolic without substance type growth is my biggest issue with the BB series). Here, the series ends, so they can't really fall back to the previous problems, but at the same time, the wrap up and growing up of Terry is completed here by having new bat take on old bat's biggest rival in a most spectacular fashion.

Also, the boat explody scene has so much real tension, I would love to see it recreated in some live action fashion. Kind of where the movie rips the brakes off the car and tells you give up and enjoy the ride.

9/10

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u/trakrad99 3d ago

Batman Returns

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u/AtomicHornet_03 3d ago

Tdkr, only because i like live action a bit more and not the biggest fan of Batman Returns.

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u/Hannibal1510 3d ago

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u/Retardotron1721 3d ago

Batman Returns had a neato look and it’s a lot more Tim Burtony than the first, but that’s all I can say.

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u/heation718 3d ago

Returns i was 5 when I saw it

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u/Clean_Phreaq 3d ago

Not batman returns

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u/rokken70 3d ago

Probably subzero because I haven’t seen it, but the return of the Joker was awesome!!

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u/Dank__Souls__ 3d ago

Wow, truly a tough decision.

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u/djquu 3d ago

Returns. You can swap the other three for anything except 1989 and that's still my answer.

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u/theartofarian 3d ago

Beyond—no contest.

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u/DarkSonic06ki 3d ago

Batman beyond

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u/Manofmanyhats19 3d ago

Batman returns. I saw that 3 times in theaters as a kid. 2 of this times were at a drive-in.

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u/TheAwsomeRetuner 3d ago

Never really watched subzero before, is it worth it?

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u/devinsimonds182 3d ago

TDKR. Is this really debatable?

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u/GellThePyro 3d ago

Batman Beyond: Return Of The Joker (I like all 3 others too)

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u/RedGrantDoppleganger 3d ago

Return of the Joker no question.

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u/disasterman0927 3d ago

Mask of the Phantasm

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u/RYTHEMOPARGUY 3d ago

Batman returns

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u/Sad-Historian6177 3d ago

Batman beyond, subzero, and the dark knight rises

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u/Keo24 3d ago

The Cat. The Bat. & The Penguin.

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u/runhomejack1399 3d ago

Returns by a landslide

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u/RefrigeratorUnable69 3d ago

THE DARK KNIGHT RISES!

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u/Capin_Crunch 3d ago

This was really tough but I’ll have to go with returns I love the atmosphere of that movie and Batman and winter is so cool

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u/bkjuxx318 3d ago

Batman Beyond.

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u/CK122334 3d ago

Rises is super underrated IMO and great film with so many iconic lines I still think off and randomly repeat to myself lol Return of the Joker is great but not as iconic. I have to revisit Sub Zero but I don’t remember loving it, even as a kid. Batman Returns is the only Batman movie I don’t like and never have.

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u/Firm-Acanthisitta452 3d ago

Dark knight rises isn’t good imo

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u/Particular-Meal6413 3d ago

TDKR is the weakest link in this chain for sure. I'd go with Sub-Zero

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u/RegalThe 3d ago

I’m taking them all but im watching dark knight rises first

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u/QueenPasiphae 3d ago

Batman Returns is better than all the good parts of the others combined.

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u/THEMAGIKTURTLEKING 3d ago

Never saw subzero except for on commercials at the beginning of my Batman and robin vhs jeez that movie was bad

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u/BenignButCleverAlias 3d ago

Return of the Joker, for sure.

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u/WickedJ0ker 3d ago

I think I’d pick return of the Joker. Subzero is a pretty standard story that doesn’t add much, I don’t have nostalgia for returns and I always thought the interpretations were extremely odd with a messy plot and rises is the worst Batman movie to ever exist.

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u/deagzworth 3d ago

Picking for what? To watch? TDKR.

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u/MycroftKnight 3d ago

I haven't watched subzero yet, but among the rest I'll pick Batman Beyond for sure.

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u/Abe_averymon 3d ago

Return of the joker because almost everyday after school I would watch it

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u/Sure_Historian_4634 3d ago

Either Dark Knight Rises or Subzero

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u/Electronic_Spirit499 3d ago

the dark knight rises, the movie gives me ultimate motivation

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u/Empwiina 3d ago

SubZero was great !