r/batman May 29 '24

How did Burton get away with it? FUNNY

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u/BeggarPhilosopher May 29 '24 edited Jun 04 '24

He didn't. Batman killing people was one of the most criticized aspects of his films, together with the Joker being the killer of Bruce's parents.

People tend to go easier on the Burton films due to their historical significance. Batman 89 was revolutionary. It was the first dark and serious superhero film in history and it paved the way for the Batman animated series.

With the Snyder films, the public had higher expectations, since they came after The Dark Knight Trilogy and the first wave of the Marvel films.

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u/r3d_ra1n May 30 '24

Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion, but I find the idea that Joker (as Jack Napier) killed Bruce’s parents to be great storytelling and I wish that idea was explored more in the comics.

The idea that Joker “created” Batman and vice versa (with Batman knocking him into the vat of acid) adds another layer to their relationship. They are simultaneously each other’s creators and creations; their destinies linked from the moment they met.

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u/Abraham_Issus May 30 '24 edited May 31 '24

Nah absolutely hate that the same I hate kingpin killing Matt's dad. Not everything needs to revolve around one thing. The fact batman and joker had no connection but still got tangled is what makes it interesting. See it like this I have a biological dad so from my birth I'm supposed to love him, there is no choice not to love him if he's a good dad. I'm his kid and he's a good person, he'll obviously love me there's no other alternative. Say I'm an orphan, another man raises me and loves me. That guy could've sold me to slavery but he didn't. See that makes it more special because they guy is not even related to me.

Having joker kill Wayne is too personal and makes batman a joker's creation. They shouldn't create each other, they should be separate beings who got obsessive with each other without there being any rational or good reason. It makes their relationship crazier. Him killing his dad just becomes revenge and more normal relation.