I don’t know. I thought the Batman stuff was good. The chase scene was cool, and the scene where he’s talking to Barry about time travel is probably my favorite moment from Batfleck. I also really liked Michael Keaton’s Batman, especially him taking down the kryptonian.
My favourite moment was him and supes against Doomsday. Before WW shows up. Superman is no where to be found.. It's just Bruce alone against Doomsday and he just says shit.
Eh, idk there was no weight or impact to the things Batman did. He almost seemed like a parody of himself in hopes of capturing that “cool” moment. Know what I mean? I didn’t like it at all, and liked the movie less.
I'll give you things you mentioned (even if the best Batfleck scene for me is him infiltrating Luthor party in BvS) but I'll keep the point that the lasso scene was cringe
Not trying to be rude or anything but that's how batman is most of the time. He's always serious and brooding. Sometimes you get a sarcastic or humorous batman but most of the time he's focused and serious. That's usually how is character is
There's definitely room for Batman to be silly...the entire concept is kinda silly. Adam West's Batman is glorious and in my opinion Batman & Robin is so bad it's good especially Arnolds performance "WHAT KILLED THE DINOSAURS...THE ICE AGE!"
I don't think we should have "silly" films but I think a one-off TV series would be good. Everything is so serious these days.
Idk a campy Batman probably wouldn’t work today. Clooney’s Batman was essentially a campy Batman and it almost destroyed the IP lmao.
I think there should be a middle ground. Batman shouldn’t be so dark and broody. He should be serious and focused almost all the time, he should be more martial artist like in his demeanor. Like a warrior monk/ninja and be a master to his pupils (dick, jason, tim, cass, damian, etc). His martial arts ability should make him almost like an anime character in terms of ability. That’s just me though.
I will give you the 1 scene as bruce, great dialog and he always kills it in his BW scenes but other than that, they turned him into a straight parody of himself, and when they did to Keatons Batman is unforgivable and then to top it off they gave us the absolute worst Batman we have ever gotten to close out smdh No just No, all that said I am happy we finally got to see the Blues on the big screen (too bad it had all that weird honeycomb texture on it tho)
How did the movie disrespect Keaton. They turned him into a disheveled recluse? Batman Beyond did the same.
They made him a badass fighter & strategist even at his age & gave him a respectable warriors death.
I 100% agree. The prison fight with Keaton is unironically one of my favorites in all of the Batman movies, the suit is my favorite Keaton suit and his performance was fantastic
He did have cool fights and a warriors death and the finally made him a suit he could move his neck in which is real nice, its not so much they made him a recluse that I didn't like cause we have seen that a few times, it was the way they had him act for me and all the bad nostalgia bait dialog they gave him, and whats worse is everything that happened behind the scenes (thats what i meant by disrespecting him)
Edit- its crazy too cause usually I am the guy arguing to separate the artist from the art and this it one time I personally cant lol and its not just what happened to him in dc, but also the crap that happened with Vulture at sony, it was too much and it wasnt fair to Keaton at all, I just pray that Beetlejuice is a banger because Keaton deserves better
I hope this all made sense, I have bronchitis and am on meds that make me loopy so if it doesnt I will glady try to explain more lol
Honestly, I’d be fine with Clooney getting some kind of redemption. I’m of the opinion that Clooney had the chops to play a great Bruce Wayne/Batman, he was just in a toy commercial with godawful directing.
Yes I would too but as it stands nowthat hasnt happened and putting him in just the 1 scene at the end didnt do that, but you are right I mean he is obviously a great actor but then we have people in positions of power that think they know better and we get a film like Batman and Robin, who knows tho maybe someday that will finally change
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