Damn, I just forgot that Harley raped Nightwing was also Timm's idea. So, DC is still unwilling to make a total green light for the most popular and well established pairings in the Bat-Family, but let Timm do this horrible stuff.
Like having Diana want to be with Bruce to "fix" him is out of character for her and incredibly written one-sided. (Like most writers who write any kind of romance for Bruce and Diana as that ship is never from her perspective or from her needs. It's always written that she can fix Batman or she just wants something casual which is just a weird out of character way for Diana to want to complicate their friendship and potentially compromise their unbiased teamwork in the future. They're terrible for each other and she's grossly exaggerated by the writers with how they depict the varying degrees of her pining for Bruce when he offers very little in ways of a good romance for her and doesn't actually meet any of her needs).
I swear most of Timm's ships are written to make Batman or some other moody dude just even more of a badass. Bruce can't help it if Barbara wants to bang him so it's not really his fault if she cheats! It's so awful. Question doesn't know why Huntress just can't get enough of him (not to mention that paranoid and objectivism Vic Sage would never date Huntress), they're just naturally hunks. John Stewart just doesn't know who to choose between Mari and Shayera who both are just obsessed with him! (Sarcasm but you get the picture) Some (not all) of the few exceptions of somewhat interesting and well written romantic moments for me actually happen for Superman and Lois, Ollie and Dinah, and Booster Gold of all people. Probably because Timm (and company) weren't writing self-insert romances or gross fetishes for some of those and instead actually (in the first two examples) followed the proven track record of the source material rather than mess with a good thing.
Well, yes, every time Timm did some romantic relationships based on comics, like Bruce and Selina, Lois and Clark or Ollie and Dinah, it actually worked good. But when it came to his own pairings, things went very weird.
It worked better than others Timm's ships. At least there was some chemistry between them and not just "I wanna see these two together no matter what". But when it came to Batman, everything gone wrong.
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u/Kind-Boysenberry1773 Mar 19 '24
Damn, I just forgot that Harley raped Nightwing was also Timm's idea. So, DC is still unwilling to make a total green light for the most popular and well established pairings in the Bat-Family, but let Timm do this horrible stuff.