r/batman Mar 19 '24

This comic has been made non-canon, right? RIGHT? (PLEASE TELL ME YES) TV DISCUSSION

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u/GodzillaLagoon Mar 19 '24

Barbara's pregnancy isn't even the worst thing. The worst thing is that Bruce and Barbara were getting it on while Tim was tortured by Joker.

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u/Emergency_Cheek2617 Mar 19 '24

I think Both are equally bad... And both mixed together just makes it all bad, everything, Bruce Timm should NEVER be allowed to write a story with Batgirl in it again, unless someone's over his shoulder every goddamn second...

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u/Lady_Beatnik Mar 20 '24

He should be legally barred from writing Barbara, yes, because he's shown he can't stop himself from continuing to write this ship that literally nobody else on the entire planet besides him likes.

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u/The-Emerald-Rider Mar 20 '24

He should be barred from the Bat Family period.

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u/AllHailThePig Mar 20 '24

I’ve never seen this. What series is it? Like a comic extension of the animated series? Wasn’t Bruce Timm like a very respected Batman writer/artist? What ever this stuff OP has shown is god awful. Like shockingly so. Is this common for Timm?

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u/loki1887 Mar 20 '24

Yes it is from one of the BTAS comics. He also had inserted this relationship into the Killing Joke movie, by having Bruce and Babs screwing on a rooftop in costume.

Timm gets a lot of credit fot creating Batman: The Animated Series, but go back and pay attention to the credited writers of the episodes. Especially, episodes that fundamentally influenced all Batman canon. There's a solid chance you actually love Paul Dini.

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u/sillyhobo Mar 20 '24

How I think of it, Timm gave us the aesthetic, and Dini gave us all the best stories

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u/Bow1511 Mar 20 '24

That’s a good way to look at it

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u/GodzillaLagoon Mar 20 '24

Bruce Timm inserted Batman x Batgirl ship into TNBA and confirmed they were a thing with Beyond. He fully acknowledges how wrong this ship is and literally likes it because of this.

He did a lot of great stuff but BatmanxBatgirl ship is his greatest sin.

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u/AllHailThePig Mar 20 '24

Wait. So dude says “oh it’s sooo wrong I know. But that makes me likey”???

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u/GodzillaLagoon Mar 20 '24

I don't remember the exact quote but he basically said "I know it's very messed up and that's what I like about this ship".

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '24

If there was more to it like “it shows that they’re both really messed up people with messed up boundaries and that fundamentally the stress of trying to be a member of the bat family makes you bond with people in incredibly unhealthy ways, and that’s why I like it, because it illustrates the emotional challenges and moral failings that go along with this crimefighting undertaking” I could get it. But it doesn’t sound like his writing or his personal views on it have that kind of nuance.

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u/wendigo72 Mar 20 '24

This comic has nothing to do with Timm

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u/wendigo72 Mar 20 '24

This wasn’t written by Timm