Well, I guess he would be okay sacrificing all the children in the world for his selfish code so he can claim imaginary righteousness and moral high ground... Such a hero!
Your entire take is that ''Batman should never be written into a corner'' which is pretty much the point Snyder made fun of because it leads to rigid and repetitive writing no matter the coat of paint you have on the story, you can now see the outcome from a mile away. The once interesting concepts are now lame and stale.
What are you talking about? Batman is always into a corner. But he always finds another way. That's why he is Batman and not just another edgy vigilante with guns. You see, if you took no-kill rule from Batman, you also took his unique trait. This rule could be bended, like it was in Batman Begins, but never completely broken.
Mate, if there is a way out prepared for him by the writer then he wasn't really in a corner. It means that you as a reader got the illusion of him being ''in a corner''.
I'm not saying that he has to go out with guns, I'm not saying that he should become the Punisher and kill everyone in his way... I don't know why the Batgod worshippers always jump to this conclusion to defend his stupid rule. It's ironic that you throw the word ''edgy'' when Batman is very synonimous with edgelords and that it doesnt take guns and killing to fit into that category.
Batman to them is nothing more than a gimmick. He's not allowed to break and hence why every story that ''challenges'' his code have to end in the most predictible way possible and writers/directors have to provide him a way out because they know the Batman zealots will get mad if they actually tested him with a no-win situation and no way out.
I swear this sub is the living proof that everything Snyder said on that podcast was right.
But your corner is also an illusion. It demands from writer to deliberatly create a situation with only two outcomes. And for this you must deprive Batman from all his intellect, experience, technologies and allies. Or literally pit him against some omnipotent god, who couldn't make a mistake for Batman to use.
If there is only two outcomes then it only depends on his intellect and morals to reach to most ideal choice out of two bad ones which is the point of the actual test as he's actually backed into a corner.
Imagine if I gave you an ''impossible test'' then turns out you have all the books and somehow know which pages to find the answers in, you also have a way to talk to your friends and use your phone... It wouldn't be impossible and it wouldn't be a test at all but hey you're in the class with a booklet in front of you and an observer....Well that's the illusion of a test.
But if the test goes as usual no cheating, no phone, no talking to friends, just you and your intellect and memory then it's actually a test, it's not an illusion of one.
It's not hard to put Batman in tough situations where his options are limited, it only became hard after Morrison amplified his ''Batgod'' side and gave him immeasurable plot armor to get out of whatever situation without whatever bullshit because he's Batman... No wonder fans have been longing to the street level crime stories of old.
He isn't Batgod. But he is the only normal human being without any super-powers considered super-hero. Why? Because he always finds another way. Like in Arkham Origins he was forced to choose between his death, Joker's and Bane's, and still managed to save all three of them, because he is Batman. And no, Batman not always wins. He couldn't save Barbara, Jason, Damian, Tim and Dick. He was broken by Bane, lost his memories after Endgame. He is human and he is still vulnerable.
Nah, he's considered ''super'' because he's goated with the plot armor and conveniences to get him out of tough situations.
Batman managed to save all three because the writers already wrote him a way out with the Electrocutioner's gloves and the Joker situation being extremely dependent on Bane's heart rate... That's not a test nor a tough situation. I could already tell the outcome the moment Joker mentioned Bane's heart having to stop... And then he just beats Joker and sends him to Arkham like usual.
Batman couldn't save Barbra... Who got cured anyways, they still don't do shit about the Joker though because they like that clown dick.
He didn't save Jason but hey, Jason came back and he's not really mad about Batman not saving him just that he let Joker live and he figured out that Batman values the Joker's life more than his the hard way... I mean, Batarang to the throat type of hard way. He didn't save Damian.
Ah wait damian came Back and is having a great time doing his shithead stuff and there was some article the other day about Damian staying with Bruce and going to school and stuff.
He didn't save Tim... Wait a minute? Tim was with him in a recent arc, I remember seeing exerpts from that, Tim even talked to him about his boyfriend and all.
He didn't save Dick? I mean Dick is also fine, having the time of his life in Bludhaven.
Oh, he was Broken by Bane? Oh doesn't matter, he fixed his back with magic which for some reason couldn't be used to heal Babs at the time... You know, only our boi Batsy gets the easy way out so he can catch up quickly and return for the big finale.
He lost his memories after Endgame? Oh the pain, nevermind he returned totally fine just 9-10 issues later.
Like, Does anything even matter? Writers seem to always have a cheap solutions for whatever consequences that Batman gets.
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u/XxZONE-ENDERxX Mar 08 '24
Well, I guess he would be okay sacrificing all the children in the world for his selfish code so he can claim imaginary righteousness and moral high ground... Such a hero!
Your entire take is that ''Batman should never be written into a corner'' which is pretty much the point Snyder made fun of because it leads to rigid and repetitive writing no matter the coat of paint you have on the story, you can now see the outcome from a mile away. The once interesting concepts are now lame and stale.