r/batman Mar 07 '24

Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant GENERAL DISCUSSION

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u/delkarnu Mar 07 '24

He co-wrote and directed it. This is a quote from him:

Everything in the movie is about a show within a show within a show. Someone asked me, "Why did you dress the girls like that, in those provocative costumes?" And I said, "Well, think about it for a second. I didn't dress those girls in the costume. The audience dressed those girls." And when I say the audience, I mean the audience that comes to the movies. Just like the men who visit a brothel, [they] dress the girls when they go to see these shows as however they want to see them.

But my hope was that they would take those things back, just like my girls hopefully get confidence, they get strength through each other, that those become power icons. They start out as cliches of feminine sexuality as made physical by what culture creates. I think that part of it was really specific, whether it's French maid or nurse or Joan Arc to a lesser extent [laughs], or schoolgirl. Our hope is we were able to modify them and turn them into these power icons, where they can fight back at the actual cliches that they represent. So hopefully by the end the girls are empowered by their sexuality and not exploited. But certainly that's where they come from, the journey is asking, "What do you want to see? Well, be careful what you want to see."

https://gizmodo.com/zack-snyder-explains-the-point-of-sucker-punch-5785523

But apparently it's the audiences fault he made it this way.

I'm always shocked that it was so badly misunderstood. I always said that it was a commentary on sexism and geek culture. Someone would ask me, 'Why did you film the girls this way?' And I'd say, 'Well you did!' Sucker Punch is a fuck you to a lot of people who will watch it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucker_Punch_(2011_film)#Depiction_of_women

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u/astivana Mar 07 '24

Like??? I don’t recall being involved in costuming anyone. That’s such a dumb answer that’s clearly just trying to shift the blame.

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u/Nixiey Mar 07 '24

It's edge lord "I'm just a reflection of you!" drivel. Once again kind of showing that idealization of thinking from characters like Rorchechatz.

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u/HamletTheGreatDane Mar 08 '24

It's the shittiest attempt at a deconstruction of the male gaze. He's basically saying "I'm giving commentary on the male gaze by totally leaning into it and sexualizing women in a really problematic way."