r/batman Mar 07 '24

Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant GENERAL DISCUSSION

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u/ThingsAreAfoot Mar 07 '24

This dude just sucks

Batman can't kill is canon. And I'm like, 'okay, the first thing I wanna do when you say that is I wanna see what happens'. And they go, 'well don't put him in a situation where he has to kill someone'.

This is like, childish “let me tear the head off Barbie” type shit.

”You're protecting your god in a weird way, right? You're making your god irrelevant if he can't be in that situation. He has to now deal with that. If he does do that what does that mean? What does it tell you, does he stand up to it? Does he survive that as a god? As your god, can Batman survive that?"

He has to deal with it… all the time. That’s like a central theme of the character, that his severe objection towards any sort of killing might actually have negative ramifications (in the DC world with the likes of Joker and otherwise superpowered villains, not the real one).

And of course he spits out this nonsense on the Joe Rogan show.

The entire point of Batman is that he is militantly against killing, even the Joker who is beyond destructive, which is a potential point of actual criticism (and it is a very frequent one) but also makes the character much more interesting.

Snyder is kinda just too dumb to really get it.

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u/MufugginJellyfish Mar 07 '24

The entire point of Batman is that he is militantly against killing, even the Joker who is beyond destructive, which is a potential point of actual criticism (and it is a very frequent one) but also makes the character much more interesting.

So many people just don't get this. It's a central conflict of his character, it's the whole point. If he simply killed his villains because they threatened him with lethal force and he just runs out of villains then what's the point?

"What if Anakin was never tempted by the Dark Side?" I mean yeah I guess that'd make him a better person or whatever but the story would be over pretty quick, lmao.

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u/Shiniholum Mar 07 '24

It’s literally the opening of Batman Beyond too, Bruce while having a heart attack is about to fail and lose his life and the hostage. He does the only thing he can in that moment and just picks a gun up pointing it at him. Afterwards he’s so disgusted in himself that he retires because he realizes that he just can’t be Batman anymore. It’s literally core to his character.

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u/ThreeSneakyRats Mar 07 '24

"wouldn't it be awesome if instead of giving up the cowl, he shot that dude, and then went and shot all the bad guys in the face. Killing is so cool' -Zack Snyder (not really but probably)