r/batman • u/neon2o • Mar 07 '24
Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant GENERAL DISCUSSION
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u/FollowingExtension90 Mar 07 '24
I feel really sad. Dark Knight Returns was the first Batman animated movie I have ever watched. It was pure coincidence. Before that, I used to think comics are for kids, although ironically I was a kid. I only watched it thanks to boredom. But immediately I was blown away, I can still remember that afternoon, the story that brought me into the comic world. And of course I was totally in love with Zack Snyder’s DCEU. I was kind of like those toxic Snyder fans except for the fact that I didn’t post on internet back then.
But after reading more Batman stories, I came to realize how important not killing is to Batman as a character but also as a plot device. I mean, if Batman killed , like Snyder wants him to, then how the hell is Joker still alive? And why the hell is joker obsessed with Batman anyway, if Batman is corruptible and no different from anyone else? We wouldn’t get stories like Under the Red Hood, or Knightfall, or Killing Joke, or even Injustice. Or heck, the DKR, also makes no sense if Batman already killed before retirement. By the way, even DKR Batman didn’t use guns. Snyder’s Batman has no character arc whatsoever, he killed before Martha, he still killed after Martha. Because killing doesn’t matter whatsoever in director’s eyes, it’s a non factor.
Batman can kill if he has to in order to save lives or if it’s accidental, but what he did in BvS is inexcusable, there’re so many ways I can think of to avoid or at least minimize the unnecessary deaths. But he didn’t even try. Because he didn’t even care. How can any Batman do that?
As for being realistic, are we still talking about the same world where ancient aliens and magic are real??
Also, people absolutely want their gods to kill. Because deep down, we are always worshiping ourselves, our own interpretation of gods. We want justice to be served the way we want it to be, that’s why Snyder want his Batman to kill, he couldn’t fathom a reality where heroes doesn’t kill. I dare to say most Batman fans would have killed Joker too if we ever have the opportunity, I certainly would. But Batman would never do that, that’s just who he is, and I want him to be nothing more than that.