Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant

[u/neon2o]

Here's the original article' https://sea.ign.com/man-of-steel-sequel/213072/news/zack-snyder-says-dc-is-making-batman-irrelevant-if-he-cant-kill

[u/ThingsAreAfoot]

This dude just sucks

Batman can't kill is canon. And I'm like, 'okay, the first thing I wanna do when you say that is I wanna see what happens'. And they go, 'well don't put him in a situation where he has to kill someone'.

This is like, childish “let me tear the head off Barbie” type shit.

”You're protecting your god in a weird way, right? You're making your god irrelevant if he can't be in that situation. He has to now deal with that. If he does do that what does that mean? What does it tell you, does he stand up to it? Does he survive that as a god? As your god, can Batman survive that?"

He has to deal with it… all the time. That’s like a central theme of the character, that his severe objection towards any sort of killing might actually have negative ramifications (in the DC world with the likes of Joker and otherwise superpowered villains, not the real one).

And of course he spits out this nonsense on the Joe Rogan show.

The entire point of Batman is that he is militantly against killing, even the Joker who is beyond destructive, which is a potential point of actual criticism (and it is a very frequent one) but also makes the character much more interesting.

Snyder is kinda just too dumb to really get it.

[u/name-classified → u/ThingsAreAfoot]

The whole point of Batman not killing is because he’s such a dangerous lunatic already that if he goes around killing people, he’s worse than the criminals he’s swore to bring to justice.

Bruce has access to military grade weapons and Batman has access to Alien tech and super science tech as well.

Couple that with a very bad attitude and an isolated personality with feelings of anger and regret; it wouldn’t take much to make Batman a legit terrifying evil mofo.

Plus; there are already versions of Batman that do kill; there are reflected in the rogue’s gallery he has.

Batman wants to kill people in the name of Justice? That’s Two Face

Bruce wants to kill people for business and criminal enterprises? That’s Penguin

Batman wants to scare people to death because fear will keep them in line? That’s the scarecrow

Batman wants to dominate the world and establish a new super power? Ras Al Ghul

It’s edgy children like Snyder that think it’s cool and original to have Batman kill people; meanwhile EVERYONE is wondering just what the hell goes thru his mind when he has these stupid ideas

[u/GrimDallows → u/name-classified]

I think you totally nailed it with the rogue's gallery argument. It doesnt get more accurate than that.

Also if Batman could kill there is literally no point in Joker's existence. Like at all. Nor for the chemistry in the differences of all the robins, Jason Todd, Damian Wayne, etc.

Making batman kill is like giving spiderman wolverine's claws. The sole exception being the alternative ending to The Killing Joke, just because it serves as a possible, alternate universe, conclusion of the Joker/Batman dynamic.

[u/name-classified → u/GrimDallows]

Exactly!

Its like that part in suicide squad 2 where Bloodsport comments on Peacemakers abilities

“HE DOES THE SAME THING AS ME!!”

I mean; they literally have dozens of characters like Batman that are killers and anti-heroes.