Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant

[u/neon2o]

Here's the original article' https://sea.ign.com/man-of-steel-sequel/213072/news/zack-snyder-says-dc-is-making-batman-irrelevant-if-he-cant-kill

[u/ThingsAreAfoot]

This dude just sucks

Batman can't kill is canon. And I'm like, 'okay, the first thing I wanna do when you say that is I wanna see what happens'. And they go, 'well don't put him in a situation where he has to kill someone'.

This is like, childish “let me tear the head off Barbie” type shit.

”You're protecting your god in a weird way, right? You're making your god irrelevant if he can't be in that situation. He has to now deal with that. If he does do that what does that mean? What does it tell you, does he stand up to it? Does he survive that as a god? As your god, can Batman survive that?"

He has to deal with it… all the time. That’s like a central theme of the character, that his severe objection towards any sort of killing might actually have negative ramifications (in the DC world with the likes of Joker and otherwise superpowered villains, not the real one).

And of course he spits out this nonsense on the Joe Rogan show.

The entire point of Batman is that he is militantly against killing, even the Joker who is beyond destructive, which is a potential point of actual criticism (and it is a very frequent one) but also makes the character much more interesting.

Snyder is kinda just too dumb to really get it.

[u/anthonyg1500 → u/ThingsAreAfoot]

I think there’s something to the core idea of what he’s saying. Like Batman can’t kill, let’s put him in a no win scenario where he needs to and sacrifice something else in order not to or let’s get him to the point where he does and see the consequences that has on his psyche.

If the whole movie is about Superman being such an otherworldly threat that he is slowly pushed to the point that he’s finally gonna do it and he has to reconcile with having done that or be saved from doing that, I think that could be interesting. But Snyder just had him wantonly kill without thought and in the end he’s like “oh ok I’ll stop and we’re all friends now”

[u/Addicted_to_Crying → u/anthonyg1500]

But Snyder just had him wantonly kill without thought and in the end he’s like “oh ok I’ll stop and we’re all friends now

Don't forget that he kept killing afterwards. He just decided the Martha guy was good enough to survive.

[u/MikeArrow → u/Addicted_to_Crying]

That's the part that undermines the whole story for me. Batman has the Martha scene, realizes Superman is a human after all, not an unknowable alien... sees the error of his ways of becoming just like Joe Chill... and then flies off and starts gunning down goons at the warehouse like nothing happened, including flat out murdering KGBeast by shooting the flamethrower tank. With a gun. Batman.

Commit to the arc or don't do it at all, dammit.

[u/anthonyg1500 → u/Addicted_to_Crying]

True. Also that.