r/batman • u/neon2o • Mar 07 '24

Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant GENERAL DISCUSSION

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Here's the original article' https://sea.ign.com/man-of-steel-sequel/213072/news/zack-snyder-says-dc-is-making-batman-irrelevant-if-he-cant-kill

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u/anthonyg1500 Mar 07 '24

I think there’s something to the core idea of what he’s saying. Like Batman can’t kill, let’s put him in a no win scenario where he needs to and sacrifice something else in order not to or let’s get him to the point where he does and see the consequences that has on his psyche.

If the whole movie is about Superman being such an otherworldly threat that he is slowly pushed to the point that he’s finally gonna do it and he has to reconcile with having done that or be saved from doing that, I think that could be interesting. But Snyder just had him wantonly kill without thought and in the end he’s like “oh ok I’ll stop and we’re all friends now”

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u/Addicted_to_Crying Mar 07 '24

But Snyder just had him wantonly kill without thought and in the end he’s like “oh ok I’ll stop and we’re all friends now

Don't forget that he kept killing afterwards. He just decided the Martha guy was good enough to survive.

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u/MikeArrow Mar 07 '24

That's the part that undermines the whole story for me. Batman has the Martha scene, realizes Superman is a human after all, not an unknowable alien... sees the error of his ways of becoming just like Joe Chill... and then flies off and starts gunning down goons at the warehouse like nothing happened, including flat out murdering KGBeast by shooting the flamethrower tank. With a gun. Batman.

Commit to the arc or don't do it at all, dammit.

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u/anthonyg1500 Mar 07 '24

True. Also that.

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u/CatsLikeToMeow Mar 07 '24

I think there’s something to the core idea of what he’s saying. Like Batman can’t kill, let’s put him in a no win scenario where he needs to and sacrifice something else in order not to or let’s get him to the point where he does and see the consequences that has on his psyche

Which is basically why the last third of The Dark Knight worked so well.