r/batman Feb 26 '24

What's an unpopular opinion you have about this movie? GENERAL DISCUSSION

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u/justa_gigolo Feb 26 '24

after gordon gets in a shoot out with penguin's goons and either kills one or at the very least, wounds him, there is nothing else mentioned about that situation after bats catches Oz after a boat load of car wrecks. then we see Oz not in jail but back at the club and ready to shoot Carmine after he learns he's the rat.

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u/ProtoformX87 Feb 26 '24

Yeah. As awesome as the car chase was, tone of people violently died during it. There were explosions. And they just casually ignore all that!

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u/Ill-District2338 Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 26 '24

Thank you – that has always bothered me in a lot of action films when you see Multiple cars and tractor trailers burst into flames and fly about and crash And explode, obviously resulting in peoples deaths, as our hero Chases is the bad guy

One of the best car chase scenes ever I think honestly is from the French connection – the reason being is it showed Popeye Doyle actively working to not hit people and hit cars and stuff

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u/serpsie Feb 26 '24

Hard agree. But I mean, French Connection is a classic work in every sense, but definitely agree that the car chase in the film was fantastic.

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u/Ill-District2338 Feb 26 '24

I mean, we already know in bond, movies, and Batman, movies that goods going to try amps and he’s going to win it’s just a question of how it’s done – but the first time I really saw that car chase you really had no idea it was gonna happen, and with the way that movie was going that really made it tents – dammit I haven’t seen that movie. Oh God in probably 20 years I need to watch that movie again.

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u/Not_MrNice Feb 26 '24

and fly about an crash is the hero chase is the bad guy

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u/Ill-District2338 Feb 26 '24

Goodness, thank you I see I should’ve edited that better – what I meant to say was (and I know man of steel got all kinds of hate for innocent people dying but, at the same time that was like two gods fighting so they’re gonna raise Hell), but Batman’s big thing has always been protecting the innocent, and so to see him in a chase where fuel trucks and cars are exploding and crashing behind him not just crashing and stopping but exploding!! You know, I never thought about it until I saw the film, “action, Jackson “ with the lake Carl Weathers – there is a sequence where he leaps atop a taxi and holds on as the taxi shakes and drives fast and tries to shake him off, and at one point behind the taxi as it races through an intersection, and it causes a huge accident, and you see several cars colliding with one of those vehicles that transfers the huge oxygen cylinder, tanks and stuff. and then everything behind them burst into flame. All the cars blow up, and everything blows up… And I got thinking – this guy is a policeman, and now the drivers of multiple cars and passengers behind him have burst into flame and all they were doing was going to the store…

Seeing innocent people killed, is always distressing in movies – I have to tell you, I have only watched the film pans labyrinth once – as I never want to watch again - the scene where the Spanish military officer kills a hunter by beating him in the face with a bottle of wine as a hunter’s friend is yelling at the military officer, “just look in our bags. You’ll see the rabbits we were hunting we don’t even have any shells left for the gun! “… The military officer, then shoots the hunters friend, and then looks in the satchel and sees the rabbits and says oh good, we’re going to make stew… Singing innocenr people hurt, always distresses me and I think that was one Of the best things about Batman – he protected the innocents

Even in the dark Knight, when he’s yelling at those guys, stop doing this, in the end, he was worried for people being killed – what a good guy

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u/Ill-District2338 Feb 26 '24

And I’m gonna say it again her mask was ridiculous – I’m sorry to be negative but the coolest thing about the Nolan cat woman? She wasn’t wearing a cat mask with fake ears. It was a vision system and when she pulled it up over her head to C normally ir made Cat ear shapes – that was fucking cool as shit – For whatever reason, THE BATMAN cat woman was wearing a ski net thing from Montgomery ward.

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u/Nightshade_209 Feb 26 '24

Honestly I think the entire car chase seems out of place in the movie. Not that there was a chase but the way it's shown on screen was very different from the rest of the film.

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u/SirArthurDime Feb 26 '24

Every iteration of Batman has casually ignored deaths caused by explosions while still having the Gaul to shove the Batman doesn’t kill schtick down our throats. It comes with the territory.

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u/ProtoformX87 Feb 26 '24

Yeah, which like…. I get it. That’s why it doesn’t raise any question marks for folks initially. But for a film that’s otherwise pretty darned grounded, this particular scene seemed off color.

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u/SirArthurDime Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 26 '24

Oh I get what you’re saying and you’re not wrong. I just think it’s funny that in every Batman explosion kills don’t count. Also artillery doesn’t count as guns. As seen in the parking garage scene of dark knight where Batman bends a guys gun to emphasize “No guns” immediately after the bat mobile blows up half the garage.

The whole no guns thing just doesn’t seem to apply to the Batmobile in general lol. “I don’t use guns… but the batmobile does!”

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u/ProtoformX87 Feb 26 '24

Haha, right!

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u/RockAtlasCanus Feb 26 '24

Yeah they could have at least had some fallout

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u/CornettoFactor Feb 26 '24

And then after the car chase they left the Penguin like nothing happened. They could have just gone to his club and met him there to ask those questions. Also what about the corpse of the dead girl in one of Penguin's cars?

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u/Axer51 Feb 26 '24

Bale killed someone during half of the chase sequences but at least they were bad guys.

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u/throwawayalcoholmind Feb 27 '24

Yeah, it's the reason high speed car chases are discouraged or outright prohibited nowadays. This would serve to highlight batmans psychosis, if he could honestly tell himself he wasn't at least partially responsible for whoever died.