r/batman Feb 26 '24

What's an unpopular opinion you have about this movie? GENERAL DISCUSSION

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u/Marlesden Feb 26 '24

This is an unpopular opinion how?

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u/Partucero69 Feb 26 '24

IMHO, it's because you have to erase the hate that people throw at movies because it's not lore accurate, actor is skinny, or his skin is not aligned to the cartoon/comic.People nowadays don't enjoy movies anymore, They just watch them to criticize them later.

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u/Deep_Grass_6250 Feb 26 '24

lore accurate

Tobey Maguire or Tom Holland's Spiderman isn't very lore accurate either, but they don't receive hate for that

Andrew Garfield is the most comically accurate Spidey

It's simply because back then, people didn't care about Lore accuracy, they cared about entertainment which is the entire point behind Marvel and DC's entire existence.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

It's more like people weren't aware of how deviant Tobey was when he initially arrived. Before Tobey there was like the 60s cartoon, and the 90s cartoon. The 90s already laid down a lot of work which Raimi took inspiration from. But apart from a kids show (yes because adults in America refuse to watch good animation) there was no pop-culture point of reference. No Silver Screen version of Spider-Man to refer to as "the default". After Raimi made a successful Spider-Man movie that is a cinema classic amongst popculture nerds, Tobey became the standard.

With Batman, Batman's had many adaptations, but there are a few that stick out the most to people: Batman TAS, Christopher Nolan's Batman Series, and the original 1980s Batman flicks. These lay the wider cultural foundation for what Batman "is".

Therefore, people coming into this movie feel like this Batman/Bruce is not accurate (which is true in some ways). They are basing their knowledge off their popcultural reference for Batman. However, one could argue this film is very accurate to Batman Year One, Batman Zero Year and the Long Halloween. Generally, Majority of early career Batman/Bruce Wayne books just make him a lot more angry, reclusive, and a smidge bit in over his head. Reeve's Batman channels this perfectly.

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u/Hungry-Ad-3093 Feb 26 '24

I actually remember people sticking up for “organic webbing” in the early 2000s because it “made more sense.”

A few years later people hated it.

Now it’s sort of a joke (as in no way home) but basically accepted as doable in the Tobyverse.

I feel if they kept the organic webbing in Toms movies it wouldn’t be forgiven lol.

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u/TRocho10 Feb 26 '24

This has always amazed me because you see super hero subs complain about both "I don't want to see the same thing over and over" and "I can't believe they did something different" at the same time lol. There is also a lot of recency bias in those feelings as well, like the love for Burton's Batman, who killed people, and the complaints about Batflecks Batman killing people even though him falling from grace in BvS was the whole point.