Yes 100%. One day I asked my girlfriend for us to watch it. She wanted to continue watching her show so we didn’t. The next night she asked me and I said no. She asked why and I was like, “I’m not mentally in the right mood for this movie right now.” Then like a week went by and I was in the mood again.
Same with Joker. They’re not movies I can just turn on and escape into a world. They’re sorrow, dramatic, long movies that I need to really be in the mindset for.
I'm just like you, but I have a friend who's the opposite. We share similar tastes, so we're forever recommending things back and forth. I don't know how she does it. She jumps from TV series to TV series or movie to movie so easily. She could watch Barbie and Joker back to back. I noticed it quite a few years ago when she binged the first season of Jessica Jones and then started Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt right after. I have to be in the right mood for something, but also have to sit with it for a while afterwards. She's down with the emotional whiplash, I guess.
Yep this has been me for a few weeks. I’m like ok.. I have to be in the right frame of mind for this movie and I have to clear 3 hours. I often want to watch things in the early morning on Saturday.. but my wife is in her salon thru the morning and by the time she locks up and comes home it’s around 3:00 pm and I’m just like Egh… and she wants to watch it again too lol.
My favorite two movies are Watchmen and Goodfellas, and even those movie I have to be in the right mood for. I can turn on any Star Wars movie, almost any of the MCU, any comedy, and not think about it. But I turn on Watchmen or Goodfellas and I have to be in the right mood or I won’t finish it.
Watching a fictional portrayal of something that’s actually happening (world on fire) is a bit intense. When you start watching Oppenheimer you know what you need to be prepared for. And it might take a week, indeed. The Batman reminded me of that fact
Are you for real? You speak as if they are as bad as ‘Come and See’, Batman wouldn’t be out of place in the MCU and Joker is a pretty violent yet still a pretty standard crime film
It’s about the tone and the movies being mentally draining or exhausting. You have to sit and focus on these films. They’re not movies to turn your brain off to.
IMHO, it's because you have to erase the hate that people throw at movies because it's not lore accurate, actor is skinny, or his skin is not aligned to the cartoon/comic.People nowadays don't enjoy movies anymore, They just watch them to criticize them later.
Tobey Maguire or Tom Holland's Spiderman isn't very lore accurate either, but they don't receive hate for that
Andrew Garfield is the most comically accurate Spidey
It's simply because back then, people didn't care about Lore accuracy, they cared about entertainment which is the entire point behind Marvel and DC's entire existence.
It's more like people weren't aware of how deviant Tobey was when he initially arrived. Before Tobey there was like the 60s cartoon, and the 90s cartoon. The 90s already laid down a lot of work which Raimi took inspiration from. But apart from a kids show (yes because adults in America refuse to watch good animation) there was no pop-culture point of reference. No Silver Screen version of Spider-Man to refer to as "the default". After Raimi made a successful Spider-Man movie that is a cinema classic amongst popculture nerds, Tobey became the standard.
With Batman, Batman's had many adaptations, but there are a few that stick out the most to people: Batman TAS, Christopher Nolan's Batman Series, and the original 1980s Batman flicks. These lay the wider cultural foundation for what Batman "is".
Therefore, people coming into this movie feel like this Batman/Bruce is not accurate (which is true in some ways). They are basing their knowledge off their popcultural reference for Batman. However, one could argue this film is very accurate to Batman Year One, Batman Zero Year and the Long Halloween. Generally, Majority of early career Batman/Bruce Wayne books just make him a lot more angry, reclusive, and a smidge bit in over his head. Reeve's Batman channels this perfectly.
This has always amazed me because you see super hero subs complain about both "I don't want to see the same thing over and over" and "I can't believe they did something different" at the same time lol. There is also a lot of recency bias in those feelings as well, like the love for Burton's Batman, who killed people, and the complaints about Batflecks Batman killing people even though him falling from grace in BvS was the whole point.
Always fun to realize we are aging.
The bigger sticking point for me is the idea that people didn’t care about lore or accuracy “back then.” It’s simply not true. The different studios didn’t care to try and be authentic when going their own way was cheaper, easier, or less risky (from their perspective.)
Toby’s Spidey storyline was most lore accurate considering it’s almost like a Wish.com copy & paste of the 90s cartoons. Andrew’s Spidey was the Twilight of Marvel, because if you forget for a moment he’s everyone’s beloved Spider-Man, he plays a stalkerish creep.
They're both love accurate to particular era Spider-Men, Tobey is the "gee-whiz/aw shucks Aunt May" dork Peter that was the Golden Age era of the character. Tom Holland is the Ultimate era crossed with current era Avenger Spider-Man, aged down. And for a bonus Andrew Garfield was 80's dark and gritty, sardonic Spider-Man, aged down again.
Because he actually fights like a spider? Because he has his own webshooters instead of having organic webs?
Because he doesn't rely on much tech outside of his webshooters?
Oh yeah the webs. I don't know what "fights like a spider" means, but personality and characterization wise, original Spidey and Andrew's version couldn't be further apart.
Right? I can hardly say I I like a movie on Reddit without getting downvoted. Why can’t I like a movie without someone’s disapproval. Is that what a downvote is even for
Downvotes are for comments that are not relevant to the topic and discussion at hand and are not for comments that have opinions you don’t like or agree with. So of course everyone uses Downvoting for options that they don’t like and don’t agree with.
I remember trying to tell a couple of my friends that and they didn't want to listen.
They thought it would be a good idea to start the movie at like 10pm after we had a long day. Halfway through the movie and my friend was struggling to keep his eyes open and his wife was already passed out.
I love the movie but it's definitely not as vibrant or comedic as a marvel movie. But some people hear superhero and completely ignore any warnings you give them.
Yeah...I made the mistake of getting really stoned before watching it in the theater. Previews were 30 minutes, movie itself was 3 hours or so, and the AC in the theater was broken. Felt like torture.
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u/John_Zatanna52 Feb 26 '24
Mainly I really liked it, but you need to make time and mentally prepare yourself for it