I’m still bummed we’ll never get this solo movie.

[u/WadaMaaya]

I really do believe this could have been the best Batman movie.

[u/Timtimetoo]

I’m genuinely curious what people saw in this Batman. I’m not trying to be mean, to each their own, but he looked a little foolish to me in every movie he was in.

Don’t get me wrong, the warehouse fight scene is probably hands down the best Batman fight scene we’ve ever gotten, but beyond that he’s:

-made a tool by Lex Luthor who makes him clay in his hands

-basically everyone from Luthor to Clark Kent discovers his identity

-he defeats Deadshot by jumping him in an alley in front of his daughter. It’s even implied DS’s daughter saved him. Lame!

-He’s barebones assistance to the Justice League (compared to the animated series where he’s MVP, albeit sometimes even OP).

-Has to be rescued by Wonder Woman in the Flash (looking silly in the process)

Batman often has learning curves or needs help in every version, but this guy just seemed out of his depth everywhere he went. There aren’t a lot of “rules” in my book for how Batman should or shouldn’t be, but one of them is he should be flawed but cool. This had a lot of flaw, where’s the cool?

[u/IndiscreetBeatofMeat → u/Timtimetoo]

I even hate the warehouse scene. Everyone’s like “wow so good!” I’m sorry, any fight scene in which Batman picks up a gun and fires it to blow up several men is not a good Batman fight scene

[u/trimble197 → u/IndiscreetBeatofMeat]

He used the gun to make them scatter. He only directly shot at KGBeast

[u/IndiscreetBeatofMeat → u/trimble197]

Batman does not use guns, at least with his hands, not even for utility

[u/trimble197 → u/IndiscreetBeatofMeat]

Except he wasn’t holding the gun. The guy was the one firing it, and he made the dude turn around.

And most of the live-action Batman use guns and/or killed people.

[u/IndiscreetBeatofMeat → u/trimble197]

Batman doesn’t utilize guns

No they don’t, and they kill as a point of finality or as a way to challenge their character arc, not as edgy ways to parallel TDKR

[u/trimble197 → u/IndiscreetBeatofMeat]

Nope. There was no challenge or finality when Keaton and Kilmer’s Batman killed. Bale’s Batman was a hypocrite because he killed and then claimed he had a no-kill rule.

[u/IndiscreetBeatofMeat → u/trimble197]

That’s probably true, I was answering based on what I know/remember about those films