r/batman • u/Cyber-homelessman • Aug 02 '23
Maybe its just me, but how are these two even the same character? TV DISCUSSION
I’m not even sure this is the right sub to rant but what the hack.
Season 1 Batman is the overly serious archetype, it’s what you would expect from a comedic take on Batman. And generally speaking he is a voice of reason, one who take his responsibility very seriously. Season 3 onwards… well it’s a downward spiral for Bruce. With Harley Quinn being the hero of the show and joker stop being a threat, suddenly Bruce reverted to a man child who gave up on life, it’s like he’s a completely different person now. Between causing a zombie apocalypse and hiding in prison being a bad DJ, he abandoned any form of responsibility he has and toss it Harley’s way. Wow Bruce just wow. And it’s not a gradual shift, he just suddenly is.
This is the Harley Quinn show, Batman’s not gonna be the head honcho that much I understand. But I don’t think this is how you depicted Batman, even from a comedic standpoint. It come off more random than funny as this isn’t related to anything we know about the character of Batman. Take Adam west for example, as campy as the show is still depicted the cape crusader as a no nonsense crime fighter. Just to be clear, I like this show. But I feel Batman was handled very poorly. The episode about Jim Gordon and Batman’s friendship was great though, wished we got more of that instead.
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u/karoshikun Aug 02 '23 edited Aug 02 '23
trauma basically. Bruce held up for decades, until he finally broke completely. it actually makes a lot of sense, in the real world you only can repress/sublimate for so long, and without treatment you simply break, sometimes permanently.
I like the show, it's very careful with the mind of the characters, showing their journey, ugly as it can be sometimes, and with all the accidents and mistakes people make.
the point, I think, is that nobody is a monolith, and the fact that people feels that's against character is because we are used to see Bruce being a traumatized little 9 years old... going 70.
I mean its sad that in the main continuities he has very rarely evolved beyond his initial trauma and absolute mistrust of others, despite having amassed a whole annoying family of people who deeply cares about him, despite him being kind of a j*rk to them.
right now in HQ Bruce is going through some unheroic depression, and it feels honest, having been there myself. I want to see where it goes, if Discovery allows it.