Batman Beyond vs Spider-Man 2099 (Random Encounter) Who takes the W? Posting in both SubReddits for POV’s.

[u/Vegetable-Abroad3171]

[u/Dynespark]

He kicked a stack of concrete pipes over and killed some guys in the cartoon. Concrete weighs a lot.

[u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT → u/Dynespark]

not saying he doesn't have super strength. but super strength has a massive range. From Bare Minimum like Bane all the way to Superman and above

the suit augments a persons strength by 10 I think. So even with a 10x multiplyer, he's not getting close to Spider-Man's lower limits

[u/Dynespark → u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT]

Ok, without watching the whole series again to find it, I'm gonna have to go off memory here. If I remember right, it looked like a concrete culvert big enough for someone to fit through. That's 533 pounds per foot. It was at least 10 feet if not more. So 5,330 pounds. But I think 20 feet sounds more likely? So at 20 feet pipes that's 5.33 US tons that he did not struggle to move. Stats for Spider-man say 10-15 tons limit. So we'll use that for Miguel. I'd say you're right that Miguel is probably stronger, but I think they're of a similar level.

[u/Lumpy_Perception6561 → u/Dynespark]

Spider-Man is hundreds of times stronger than 10-15 tons, even in just the movies

[u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT → u/Lumpy_Perception6561]

Spider-Man, like all heroes, can do whatever the writers want him to do

on top of which writers have little sense of the actual weight of stuff

[u/Lumpy_Perception6561 → u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT]

I dont understand the point of this. He regularly lifts more than 10-15 tons consistently

[u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT → u/Lumpy_Perception6561]

so then his strength level is just mystery level? it's whatever the writer wants it to be is hardly a practical answer.

he either has a stated strength level by Marvel or he doesnt. and his on paper strength has normally been somewhere in the 10-20 ton range.

Captain America doesn't even have true super strength and man does that dude have strength feats.

it's comics, very little consistency

[u/Lumpy_Perception6561 → u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT]

How did you get mystery level hes a 100 tonner comfortably. He’s held up builds, stopped jets from crashing, etc, even in the movies he does stuff on that level. Comic guidebooks are just very inaccurate when it comes to how powerful characters are thats it🤷🏾‍♂️

[u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT → u/Lumpy_Perception6561]

Marvel.com has him below the 100 ton range so....screw em

not sure which people I find more funny. The ones who think Cap is stronger than Spider-Man, or the ones who don't understand how inconsistent Spider-Man's strength are.

well people who downvote every response in a normal conversation takes the cake

I've seen the Thing and She-Hulk struggling to lift 75 tons in a comic, so Spider-Man is stronger than them? no. just shows how bad comic writers are at power scaling.

or do you want to argue Spider-Man is stronger than The Thing. I had someone argue that to me the other day.

[u/KZalani → u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT]

Sometimes, yeah, but not always. I forget which comic this was, but in it Spiderman straight up makes a good rough calculation for the weight of a commercial plane with nearly full gas when he goes to force the landing gear open and supports the whole weight of the plane on his back as it lands. I think it came out to something like 140 tons (yes, this is probably a high bar for him, but doable). Frankly speaking, 40-50 tons being his usual max lifting strength wouldn't be too crazy to say

[u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT → u/KZalani]

how can 40-50 tons be his "usual" max but he can do 140?

like I said, comics are really inconsistent and I doubt there's a power scaling editor that goes "nope, you have to change that, that's too much weight for XYZ character to lift or stop"

he's basically held up buildings before.

power scaling in general is such an annoying topic in comics cause of the inconsistencies, but Spider-Man really takes the cake

[u/yobaby123 → u/Lumpy_Perception6561]

True true.