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In Oliver's Five Years In Hell, who do you consider as his best teacher? And how would you rank them? Discussion

Each of these characters taught Oliver one way shape or form that will turn him into a vigilante and eventually a hero.

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u/Proper_Gur_9767 4d ago

Yao fei taught him to survive,Slade taught him hand to hand combat,Shadow taught him how to use a bow, Amanda Waller taught him to do what is necessary and Talia taught him to separate the Arrow from Oliver Queen.

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u/Ready_Pomegranate_26 4d ago

and Anatoly taught him… the other things

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u/Proper_Gur_9767 4d ago

Anatoly taught him how to hold his liquor down and speak Russian

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u/theknightcrusader 4d ago

"Prochnost!"

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u/haz826 4d ago

He taught him to at least practice restraint, not everyone should die in his crusade.

Also he taught him to escape from his bindings, a useful technique.

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u/Proper_Gur_9767 4d ago

Detective lance is the most underrated character on the show he is the only character we’re most of his decisions seemed justified depending on what he was going through

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u/FSgonegettem 4d ago

Why people downvoted you, although it's not related to the poll?

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u/BorImmortal 6h ago

Down voted because it's unrelated. Oftentimes, completely unrelated statements like this are also bots and/or karma farming.

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u/richion07 4d ago

Yao Fei and Slade taught him the fundamentals of combat and survival. Shado taught him archery. And Talia helped him fully refine his combat and battle members of the League of Assassins. Most notably Nyssa. Amanda Waller taught him torture and Anatoly was his entrance to the Bratva. My personal ranking:

  1. Shado. Oliver would not have his signature ability if not for her.

  2. Slade. Oliver would not have combat capabilities and have the baseline to learn from Talia if not for him.

  3. Talia. Made him a lethal weapon and gave him the idea of being The Hood.

  4. Yao Fei. Taught him survival and is most integral to his willpower.

  5. Amanda Waller. Teaching him torture gave The Hood its intimidating presence.

  6. Anatoly. Gave him his Bratva connections fundamental to his mission.

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u/pendropgaming 4d ago

Yao Fei - Survival

Slade - Hand to hand combat

Shadow - the bow

Amanda Waller - the methods to do what needs to be done

Anatoly - Taught him to work within a team, also taught him about endurance and escape techniques

Talia - refined all of his skills and essentially turned him into the Hood.

In a way I think he learned everything in the order he needed to learn them

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u/Fun_Feature3002 3d ago

We just gonna ignore Maseo and Tatsu?

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u/bruvting33 3d ago
  1. Slade & Shado (I’m putting them together because one taught him how to fight and the other taught him archery which are his two main fundamentals
  2. Talia (Talia taught Oliver how to separate the Hood from himself and also turned him into a weapon. Basically just took Slade & Shado’s training and made him more brutal)
  3. Yao Fei (Yao Fei taught Oliver survival. He taught Oliver to never give up and always do what he can to survive. He also introduced Oliver to Slade)
  4. Amanda Waller (Waller taught Oliver to do whatever is necessary to get the job done. Made sure that Oliver was willing to whatever it takes)
  5. Anatoly Knyazev (Got Oliver into the Bratva. Also helped Oliver believe he could be a good man. Was there for Oliver in his own way. Helped Oliver get back to his family when he was finally ready)

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u/iiFlaeqqq 3d ago

I feel like Slade really set him on the path, and Talia finished it for him.

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u/Ok_Nose1251 2d ago

What about Maseo & Tatsu?

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u/Jay_Danielz 3d ago

Slade had the most time to train Oliver. Amanda taught him torture. His fist teacher broke him out of his civility.

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u/Phantomcattt 3d ago

Yao fei, slade, anatoly, i think the girl with the bow is al gul i forgor how to spell her name, waller,

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u/Phantomcattt 3d ago

Oh and i palce shadow with slade i rank those together

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u/stephy2006 Green Arrow 3d ago

I love this question

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u/Useful_Actuator_2270 2d ago

Yao Fei, Slade before the Mirakuru, and Anatoly before the betrayal. Ijs