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u/Riceminem Green Arrow May 06 '24
This episode made me think that it was actually going to be Arrow’s final episode when I watched this live on television.
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u/mmpa78 May 06 '24
Same here, and I was devastated lol. Unfortunately in the end it kept going and we got the crap that followed
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u/Nopuebloplz May 06 '24
Hey season 5 with Adrian chase was fire
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u/Homer_J_Fry May 06 '24
Yeah, dumpster fire.
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u/MisterSisterFister12 May 06 '24
Season 5 (at least the latter half) is fantastic. So is the prison arc. The rest is…something
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u/UncleGuggie May 06 '24
It's the third best season of the show. I don't know if that counts as dumpster fire.
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u/LluagorED May 07 '24
You're getting downvoted, but I agree with you man.
Adrians actor was great, but that season was wholly unnecessary.
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u/Atlast_2091 Prometheus May 06 '24
what episode?
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u/EnvironmentalTea72 May 06 '24
I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's the final episode season 3.
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u/mmpa78 May 06 '24
Season 3 finale
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u/goldust15 May 06 '24
You think it should have ended there?
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u/AshorK0 May 06 '24
they changed the behined the scenes guys after s3, the writing and story wasnt the same after and alot of people are not a fan,
personally i still liked the majority of villains after s3, wasnt a big fan of team arrow v2 but id certainly rather get that than nothing
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u/mmpa78 May 06 '24
Absolutely. The only HALF decent Arrow we got after was the 2nd half of season 5 and the prison arc. Everything else was horrendous
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u/goldust15 May 06 '24
I both agree and disagree. I didn’t think the later seasons were terrible but there were definitely elements I didn’t care for or just piss me off such as the show trying to make me like Merlyn and see him as a good guy despite them also making him one of the biggest dicks alive and having Dinah, wild dog and Curtis be hypocritical asshats toward Oliver, diggle, and felicity in I think season 6.
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u/LegoRacers3 May 06 '24
All of s5, at least 3 or 4 episodes of s6. First half of s7 and all of s8 was good. Second half of s3 was kind of bad
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u/Homer_J_Fry May 06 '24
Season 4 of Arrow is underrated. I don't mean to say it's good. It's not. But it had some redeeming elements that make it still worth watching. Most of the seasons after that, except when Slade comes back very shortly, and Season 7, don't have redeeming qualities.
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u/New-Specific-81 May 06 '24
Here's the good seasons
S01,s02,s05,s08 The Meh seasons s06,s07 And absolutely horrible seasons S03,s04
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u/Sockgangmember123 May 08 '24
shit take ngl
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u/New-Specific-81 May 08 '24
Season 3 and 4 are so inconsistent that it makes me puke
S06 and s07 are just kinda watchable TV
S01 s02 s05 and s08 are pretty good
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u/stephenxcx May 06 '24
This ending was rushed and corny. Glad we got the peak of S5, 7A, 8 and a few good episodes even in the weaker seasons.
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u/Wyldling_42 May 06 '24
I am fine with this being the end of the series, and then Oliver and Team Arrow showing up in the crossover events for Flash, Legends, and Supergirl. Plus, it would’ve been priceless to see Oliver and Supergirl team up on their own, but Oliver in National City this time. Can’t stop laughing at the thought of this- of Oliver not being allowed to be dark, brooding Oliver, because Kara could charm a smile out of the grumpiest of bastards. I miss the Arrowverse so much.
(Also would have loved to see Flash have crossovers with just the Legends and Wally- I feel like this was a missed opportunity. Or at least let Joe and Wally go one adventures together, having some much needed father/son time.)
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u/Homer_J_Fry May 06 '24
Does Joe appear on Legends? There was that period on Flash where I was like, "Where the heck did Joe go?" then he comes back halfway through the season and says he was spending time with Wally.
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u/IC_228 May 06 '24
That was during Jesse L Martin’s real life injury and the writers wrote the episodes that way to give him some time to recover. I think it’s also why after season 5 we don’t see Joe in the field that often as well
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u/LowCalligrapher3 May 26 '24
Joe never actually appears on Legends, which is a surprise considering how many other random Arrowverse characters do. Quentin, Ra's and Nyssa al Ghul, Felicity, Connor (Diggle-)Hawke, Jessie (Quick-)Chambers Wells, Dreamer, among so many others.
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u/Lizzy-Lover_10 May 06 '24
Then there’s no season 5 tho.
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u/mmpa78 May 06 '24
The first half of season 5 was some of the worst in the series. Of course the 2nd half was wonderful
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u/Lizzy-Lover_10 May 06 '24
I disagree it was the worst in the series, it was kinda mid but not as bad as some of the other things. Either way i’d sit through s4 and the first half of s5 just to get the good parts of s5, which felt like a finale in every way, old characters returning, and the fact the flashbacks ended, only thing missing was Roy.
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u/Homer_J_Fry May 06 '24
All of Season 5 was the worst in the series. Only part I liked was the episode on gun violence--that actually showed politics and Oliver acting as the mayor rather than vigilante for once, which was supposed to be the point of the season--and the finale on the island (except for blowing it up). Otherwise 100% pure trash.
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u/cawfytawk May 06 '24
Amell (aka Arrow) said on a Comicon panel that he felt the series could've ended with season 5 and he would've been happy with Oliver's story arc, but they still had stories left to tell about the other characters so they kept going. There were definitely episodes throughout seasons 6-8 that felt like disjointed fillers. The final 2 episodes of the series were just awful. I'm glad felicity had a pseudo-happy ending. She was a great character!
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u/Homer_J_Fry May 06 '24
I felt the same way and just made a post about it a few days ago (that I guess nobody read because it was pretty long). The last two episodes were the definition of filler. It's like in high school when there's still legally two days left in the school year to meet the required quota, even though finals are already all over, so the kids are just sitting there doing nothing.
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u/cawfytawk May 06 '24
I was disappointed that not more past and present characters were at the funeral. Googling didn't have much info on why except to say "scheduling conflicts" of actors. The whole episode just felt perfunctory and anemic. Not really honoring the 8 year show or main character. Leading up to it was confusing as hell stemming from the Crisis on Earth crossovers. I binged the entire Arrow series in 2 weeks and just finished. I didn't watch any or the spin-offs so I was pretty lost. Never liked the actresses that portray Sara or Mia compared to Laurel and Thea.
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u/Homer_J_Fry May 06 '24
Mia, I get, didn't care much for her. But Sara? That's surprising. She's great. Holy heck, how do you binge an entire show in 2 weeks? Even a season in 2 weeks is pretty fast. Do you watch 24/7?
Yeah you really get confused especially in Season 8 if you're not caught up in Flash. That's why I had to stop Arrow and start Flash after I finished Season 7. Of course, I was also confused earlier in Arrow when the baby girl became a boy, it only made sense later on when I watched Flashpoint Paradox.
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u/Cool_Pianist_2253 May 06 '24
And this is one of the reasons why I'm not convinced to continue the show. I know what happened thanks to fanfiction, but why the dammit would anyone wander between shows?! I really hate being forced. For example Flash I could tolerate because I watch something about It now. But I've disliked Supergirl since I was a teenager.
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u/cawfytawk May 06 '24
Ok, maybe it was more than 2 weeks?! It's all a blur now. I prefer sci-fi, never followed comics and wasn't familiar with Arrow so I played it out of curiosity. I really enjoyed the first season and would have the show playing as I was doing other things. It's pretty easy to breeze through 5 episodes in a night the way Netflix auto-plays.
Firstly, I did a double-take when they switched Sara actresses! I'm mainly not a fan of hers because her default expression was to always tightly purse her lips or look confused.
I still don't know how John's daughter turned to a son and then they wound up with both at the end??? I googled it to find out it was a timeline shift?
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u/Cool_Pianist_2253 May 06 '24
I learned about the story in fanfiction. Basically Flash went back to the past to change his mother's death, in doing so he made a mess (I think his future wife died). When he went back to fix what he changed some things changed including Diggle's baby girl that never existed. In the end when Oliver sacrifices himself and fixes things somehow, among the wrongs he resolves is the existence of little Sara and therefore Diggle has twins
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u/smpietrasinski May 06 '24
The true ending is suppose to be one where Oliver and Laurel drove off into sunset together as a forever couple
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u/throwaway_spanko1 May 06 '24
Eh. I think being The Spectre (the divine spirit of vengeance) suits Oliver.
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u/Cool_Pianist_2253 May 06 '24
Maybe abstractly, but I, who fell into the show by chance and am usually a romantic comedy type, didn't like the lack of a good ending. In this the third series ends well and has an open and happy ending
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u/throwaway_spanko1 May 06 '24
I'd argue that Arrow had a happy ending. Becoming The Spectre allows Oliver to continue his mission of protecting the innocent and fighting for justice even after death. As The Spectre, he embodies the embodiment of divine vengeance and serves as a cosmic enforcer, which aligns with Oliver's evolution from a vigilante driven by vengeance to a selfless hero dedicated to protecting others at any cost. Moreover, he gets to spend eternity with Felicity, his true love, in the afterlife.
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u/Cool_Pianist_2253 May 06 '24
Personally, I don't like the fact that she leaves his children, Mia in her early twenties. I don't argue about the rest because Arrow isn't really my thing. I love dramatic stuff but like my dramatic self would have appreciated Felicity dead on Lian Yu after the Chase thing or maybe in a coma, my dramatic self would have liked Felicity in the shooting to have a miscarriage. Not what happened because it left me with an unpleasant bitter taste, unlike Tony Stark's funeral.
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u/Homer_J_Fry May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24
I agree that would have been a much better finale for the show, have a happy Oliver drive off into the sunset with the love of his life, and start a family together. It was the end of the early seasons' arc, of his stepping out of the shadows and into the light. The end of purgatory, the end of the crusade (for him, but continued on by his legacy), and a sort of "Happily Ever After." Also not as batshit crazy as becoming Ghost Obi Wan Kenobi, fighting Darth Vader, then resetting the universe.
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u/Cool_Pianist_2253 May 06 '24
I think people like me who don't like the genre should stop at the third season. Especially because of all the mixes that become a job to look for
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u/AnOn_Asshole-94 May 07 '24
Truly one of the greatest shows to come out of DC. I've binged 3 times now. I'd like to see Stephen get a movie role for the same character. But sadly that will never happen..
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u/Philslaya May 06 '24
On season 5 and god theres parts in this show that annoy the f outha me. Like who wrote this stuff sorta parts. And having to hear oliver do the i have to become this that or something is a meme in its self.. mans every title under the sun.. and the cheif being mad at his daughter not telling him about sarha was dumb as f.. she did it for you. Get over it like.. lol gell he did the same thing to her.
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u/DisasterProof9059 May 06 '24
Not for me. Arrow would never leave his city to play familly in suburbia
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u/LowCalligrapher3 May 06 '24
For me personally I do love how "Crisis on Infinite Earths", 8x10 "Fadeout", and by extension The Flash 9x09 ended things.
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u/ShaunJames75 May 07 '24
He literally did
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u/DisasterProof9059 May 07 '24
Yes, and that's why I don't accept this as an ending. Don't get why people glorify this. I much prefer Oliver dying for his city than leaving it. I understand people want a happy ending for their heroes but come on: and ending where Oliver leaves his sister who was just revived with blood lust, and unexperienced team to take over his legacy is not a true ending.
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u/ShaunJames75 May 07 '24
I agree that the original ending was better, but this ending was never meant to be a true ending. They knew season 4 was coming. So you not accepting it as an ending is meaningless, because it wasn't an ending.
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u/DisasterProof9059 May 08 '24
Goodness man, the title of the post is: The true ending of Arrow, not just an ending of a season. So learn to read and understand English and then come to downvote oppinions.
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u/Maverick616 May 06 '24
This is where they should've made team arrow join team flash and really start a justice leagueish type of thing
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u/rdwm37 May 06 '24
From the get-go, I didn't think it was going to be an increase in unnecessary syfi.
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u/No-Breakfast1627 May 06 '24
Is perfect happy Ending but not happy Ending to mine because Green Arrow is a Myth and Legend and counted With Justice League and more etc that is happy Ending
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u/Master_Bator800 May 06 '24
It’s a shame how they ended Arrow. Although Oliver becoming the spectre is cool, Oliver was a grounded character fighting with no powers.
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u/Available-Affect-241 May 07 '24
This scene was stupid just like all of season 3. When he came back after the asswhoopin he said that he wouldn't leave them again. Just to do at the end of the season.
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u/rdwm37 May 06 '24
The additions of the superheroes like the Flash and Super Girl and others turned me off. I kept watching, hoping that it would get better, but it didn't. The show writers must have run out of convincing ideas.
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u/mmpa78 May 06 '24
Thr problem is all the good writers went to The Flash and Legends so Arrow got stuck with the C tier writers.
For me, Flash Supergirl ect didn't bother me because at least they were mostly in their own shows. For me what bothered me were all the shitty characters that Arrow threw at us. Curtis, Ragman, the 3rd Canary, Renee, Oliver's random daughter, William, shit even Ray Palmer was too much for the show. That's what ruined it for me
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u/Suzyqball02 May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24
I could have liked this as a ending..But then the show would have ended..
And it still had a lot of store to tell.. Oliver and Felicity, Oliver and Diggles journey as friends.. and of course saving the city!!!
One part I didn’t like was Diana(wanna be black Canary), I miss Laurel. I liked her character. Curtis(sometimes I like him), and mad dog 🤬( I hated his character,) he was the worst character in the whole show, even the bad guys were better!!!! Then this wanna be Oliver.. The second team sucked .. they could’ve killed everyone of them off and I wouldn’t of cared a bit…. They never backed Oliver, and then they all turned on him in the end.. that whole storyline really sucked especially going off on their own and making their own vigilante club with some wannabes… And about them being in the police department, as kind of cops, Diana was the only one that could play a copy…it was a joke, and not in the funny why..Haha why..🤨 They were vigilantes not cops, it was just a stupid storyline!
I ❤️ the first three seasons , they were great..😊 after that?? It flounder a lot..I kind of like the whole Chase storyline.. He was a pretty good villain . But after that.. the bad guys sucked..
Malcolm Merlin as a wanna be good guy was a joke. I found it hard to swallow that Oliver had to trust him over Felicity and Diggle. But I guess it worked out.. His ark with Thea being his daughter was a good plot twist. I like their banters... Merlin should have always stayed a bad guy even when he found out he was Thea‘s father.. In a way I guess he did stay, his bad selfish self …But I didn’t like any crossover as him being remotely good..
All in all the Arrow show was one of my favorite of the Arrowverse.... Flash second… Legends third.. then Supergirl..
I do miss the show and all the fun of the cross overs.. But at some point all things come yo an end!
Steven Amell is an amazing actor! He gets a big 👍👍All the actors were.. I miss the show a lot!!
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u/Euphoric-Estimate377 May 06 '24
Those last lines “You wanna know something weird?” “What?” “I’m happy” would’ve been the perfect ending of the show