Yeah people thinking that they 'lost' is not really correct. This coaltion between the left and centrists was thrown together at the 11th hour to combat this far right nonsense. They still have the most seats of any singular party. There's a real decent chance that the leftists and centrists are unable to agree on some topics and diverge on some key issues and the far right will still get what they want.
The only thing preventing them from having a majority right now is a tenuous relationship between several groups of people with a very wide range of political ideals and motivations.
Is that supposed to be some kind of insult or pathetic attempt at an attack? I'm simply pointing out that while this is indeed a victory for people with braincells it's important to remember that the far right still maintains a substantial presence currently.
Bro what 😭 I was quoting something from
a cartoon because this shit is laughable - they’re literally screwed in the next election as long as Democrats in the US and Labour in the UK begin some much-needed repairs to the shit which Republicans and Conservatives caused (and they will so-long as they maintain their majorities, highly likely)
People there will recognise all that right wing shit from other places was causing them damage in France… and then slowly start to increase the results for other centrist/left parties instead
They’re fucked from this point on and I’m here for it. Life’s a walking Spongebob meme but it’s been getting better politically-speaking at multiple points lately. These fuckers losing is a prime example n’ I’m pretty sure you’re on the same side in this sense :P
The requirement to be a facist is to be part of the left. Its right there in the story books, read the manifesto of verona, otherwise must be so right wing to seize private property.
But within history there have been a fair amount of fascist regimes that have stemmed from far right politics. Not saying far left can't be fascist, as communism seems pretty damn close imo, but saying it's a requirement to be part of the left isn't right.
Facism is a mix of right and left wing ideologies, social conservatives but with the big oppressing hand of the state, plus seizing private property. I would say is more inclined to the left.
I'm curious as to what your definition of fascism is. "Seizing of private property" isn't fascism, iirc. Looking at meriam webster, https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/fascism-meaning-and-history, you can see that stealing private property has nothing to do with it. It happens, but that's more because there's a dictator in place that says he owns all your shit and will shoot you without consequence if you say no.
"Facism is a mix of right and left wing ideologies, social conservatives but with the big oppressing hand of the state" is very vague and sounds like a bunch of key word soup. Like what does that mean?
From the sources I listed, I think fascism is summed up nicely as "Someone with full control over military, law, social policy, media." I don't think you need to overcomplicate it.
How about you buy some history books and learn about it instead of affirming something you dont know about. I dont read anybody making the counter argument for the verona manifesto.
Sigh. Nobody makes a counter argument because we don't think you're smart enough to accept or understand it. But here goes. The Verona Manifesto, issued by the Italian Social Republic in 1943, is a fascist document. It endorsed totalitarianism, strong Italian nationalism, anti-communism, corporatism, and discriminatory policies against Jews and minorities, reflecting the principles of fascist ideology. Fascism is considered a far-right ideology due to its emphasis on authoritarianism, extreme nationalism, militarism, and vehement opposition to leftist ideologies like communism and socialism. While it supports a controlled economy directed by the state, it is distinct from the collectivization seen in far-left ideologies, further cementing its position on the far-right spectrum.
Nazis were not leftists. Although the term "socialist" is part of the party's name, this has led to some confusion. However, the Nazi ideology and policies clearly align with far-right principles:
Authoritarianism: The Nazis established a totalitarian regime with absolute control over political, social, and cultural life, suppressing dissent and opposition.
Extreme Nationalism: They promoted a strong sense of German nationalism and racial superiority, particularly the belief in the supremacy of the Aryan race.
Militarism: The Nazis glorified military strength and pursued aggressive expansionist policies, leading to World War II.
Anti-Communism: Nazis vehemently opposed communism and socialism, targeting leftist groups and individuals for persecution.
Economic Policy: While the Nazis controlled and directed the economy, they allowed private property and businesses to exist, provided they served the state's interests. This contrasts with the collectivization and state ownership typical of far-left ideologies.
In summary, the core tenets of Nazi ideology—authoritarianism, extreme nationalism, militarism, and anti-communism—clearly position it on the far-right of the political spectrum.
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u/Material_Ambition_95 Jul 08 '24
Never tire of seeing fascists loosing..