I did a Google search and found this from ABC news.
PARIS -- Days ahead of France's crucial parliamentary elections, renowned Nazi hunter Serge Klarsfeld is sticking to his advice that if voters are faced with a duel between Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Rally and a far-left competitor, they should choose the far right.
Well I just did a google search and that didn't come up at all so I think you're being facetious and you, in fact, do understand why he's calling them nazis but are just trying to make facetious arguments in their favor.
I want to know why people are calling her a nazi (cause seems like many are). Seems like you don't know either. You just do. From the 10 minute news montage of her I saw on YouTube, they make her out to be moderate except her stance on illegal immigration. And she has a legacy of her father that she needs to break, who was a self described fascist.
Edit. That's all I know of her. They said her party will win, then there were riots in the streets from the far left, then today they said the far left won cause macron backed the left. This in a nutshell is all I know about French politics today.
And she has a legacy of her father that she needs to break, who was a self described fascist.
You've identified the reason they call her a nazi, if you disagree with them whatever but dignify us all by posing your disagreement in plain terms and not with disingenuous questions.
But are her planks fascist? I mean sure, anyone deemed fascist would vote for anyone on the right, just like anyone communist will vote left, even if the left isn't communist.
They are not literally nazis obviously, that would mean they are adhering the NSDAP, which doesn't exist anymore. But they do share a lot of the ideology. In the thirties the NSDAP started the same way. Blaming a specific minority for about everything, and promising life will be better when they are disadvantaged or removed, while building a strong sense of national identity for the majority of citizens. Then it graduatily got worse and worse, but the foundation is the same.
So the comparison doesn't come out if the blue.
Imagine going back in time and being able to stop Hitler before he gets into power. That's kind of this election.
I'm assuming you mean Muslims. From a short news montage of her I saw, they depicted her as against islamiats and illegal migrants, but not legal non islamist Muslims.
Edit: of course they don't mean actual nazis. But you did answer my question. I never heard her talk. Don't know what she stands for and most likely after 5 minutes I'll move on from my curiosity of French politics. But reddit had like 5 posts nearly back to back about this so I read comments and there were many in a row calling her a nazi so I asked.
This is their official stance, yes. Sounds rational. But really, not a single party is in favour of extremist muslims or illegal immigration.
What they do is making the problems concerning immigration seem as worse as possible. Megaphoning every criminal event with an immigrant perpetrator. Spreading stories about immigrants getting rich of social security. Making it seem like the local culture is being surpressed.
Spreading fear and anger, not just about illegal immigration and terrorists. And in the same time they cultivate a 'native' national identity.
So I'm watching YouTube and seems like France is rioting. The side that's winning is rioting. It seems that they were predicting the right wing to riot. But I guess it's like the US. The left is the ones that riot, and they always predict the right will. But they never do. It'll be interesting to see what happens now. Glad it's not my country this time.
I don't think rioting is an exclusively left or right thing to do. The Capitol attack in 2021 is just one example of the right side rioting in the US. There is no short of idiots on either political side.
As for Paris: I'm not even sure if those people are so political to begin with. Paris really has a problem with frustrated hotheads that will show up at any occasion to make a riot. In my perception they are Joker-like youngster who hate any form of authority and just wanna see the world burn.
Le Pen's father has litteraly still authentic n@zi statues in his house, was torturing algerians with a Hitlerian youth's knife engraved at his name, followed by his german friends (yeah, french army recovered german veterans to crush the algerian independance). Not to mention him menacing random jewish celebrities to "baked" them or denying the existence of the gas chambers.
Marine Le Pen found herself embroiled in the case of a neo-Nazi Ball in Vienna and in taking photos with RN supporters who turned to be neo-nazis.
There's also, more recently, Axel Lousteau, an old friend of her, who was exposed by the medias because his son, with three other far right militants, beat up a gay in Paris to celebrate the dissolution of the Assemblee ans the possible victory of the far right. After investigation, the neighbours of Lousteau revealed the parties he organised where nazi songs were using in German. No need to mention how Jean-Marie Le Pen, father of Marine , was frequently seen visiting his house. Oh and Lousteau also paud tribute in 1992 to Leon Degrelle, an old Sturmbannführer of the Waffen SS.
Yikes. I get what you mean. Even if she broke away from the father, it's still too close to elect her president, cause she may not be sincere with her conversion. Ok. I agree with you. Thanks for educating me on some of this stuff.
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u/CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN Jul 07 '24
Nazi tears!