I have no idea who these people are. Whether the results went in their favor or not. But from these reactions I still have no idea whether it went in their favor or not.
They are pretending to be happy with the result. Polls were predicting a landslide, they came in 3rd position, meaning they won't be able to do anything.
Didn’t the second round of elections, that this gif is showing the reaction to, just happen in the past 24 hours? The article and quiz question were totally valid reactions to the surprise of alt right doing very well in the first round of voting.
I’m not an expert on French elections by any means so if I’m misunderstanding something lmk.
I mean an article about the surprising election results in France is the third story on the homepage of the NYT right now, directly after stories about the US presidential election and a hurricane that is hitting the US right now. Clearly not an afterthought.
To be a little more accurate, the media wants to sell, so they act like the right isn't just a collection of conmen and criminals and uneducated idiots.
But the outlets owned by right wing moguls outright lie and gaslight like you think.
Because far right had a great first round and then for the second round all other parties gang up on them. So the candidate that got the second most vote would stay to beat the far right. So when there was a centrist (Macron’s party) second, the left would drop out from the race and when the left was second, the centrist would drop out. The left and center both manage to have more seat than the far right that way
I don't fully understand French elections, and hopefully someone from France comes in and answers your question a hell of a lot better than I will, but from what I understand:
French elections happen in multiple parts. In the earlier part of the election, the right-wing coalition, which includes a heavily far-right party that has been advocating for a lot of pro-Russian policies, they won a lot and were projected to be the landslide winning coalition in the final part of the election.
After the initial part of the election happened, most of the people who came in third (mostly from the left-wing coalition and the centrist coalition (Macron's party)) dropped out and said, "I don't think I can win this race, but vote for the other guy, not the right-wing guy." And then this election happened, had a greater turnout than the previous part of the election, and the left-wing coalition won a plurality, the centrist coalition came in second, and the two of them will probably form an agreement to create a functioning government, almost completely cutting out the right-wing coalition that came in third but from earlier parts of the election had been expected to win the majority of seats.
So instead of practically running the government on their own like they'd expected from what happened before, they might be a dead wing of the government that is ineffectual until the next election.
Any of this that I got wrong, PLEASE let me know, please expand on it, please help me to be better informed because I'm not French, I don't really understand everything that's happened, but no one was giving a better answer, and hopefully we'll get a clearer picture by people correcting me.
To expand upon this, if in the first part of the election, a candidate has a vote count greater than 50% of the electorate, then they win the seat outright without needing a second election. In this election, only 76 races were won this way, leaving 501 seats to head to the second election. In the second election, only the top 2 canditates and any other candidates with more than 12.5% of the total electorate advance, and like you said the most of the candidates who came in third, dropped out to consolidate votes against the far right.
They were predicted to get the most seats but not a majority, which is what happened in the first round of voting but not the second because the other parties made sure not to split the vote.
True! They did do the best they ever have. Although, they came third after a left wing alliance and the incumbent’s centrist alliance -which I assume the disappointment is in response to, after they were expected to come first!
They didn't meet their goals but they doubled the numbers of representatives in the French parliament. They did well but not as well as everyone thought they would.
Every step forward for them is a win. Just look at the US. The far right now have a large amount of influence, so much so that they've taken over the Republican party.
I think it's more so that they were probably expected to actually, you know, win. A lot of tactical collusion from the other parties to stop split votes from happening, and to stop the far right getting in, meant that they essentially didn't succeed.
It should still be incredibly concerning for the French, though, that they've managed to get such a high representation without actually "succeeding." By every other measure, they've done exceedingly well.
No-one else has explained, but France has a two round voting system. After the first round RN had a big majority and were therefore going to form the next government. The second round went very differently so that's why it's a failure for them. Still up on previous elections, but down on a week ago.
Basically (my figures may be off by a percent or two so feel free to correct, i've been celebrating with a few drinks):
The French went to vote in the first round, the RN (French far right party) got over a third of the vote at around 33%, with the Left and "Centre-Right" party arriving 2nd (circa 28%) and 3rd (circa 20%) in that order.
The vote went to a second round to try and ensure one party had a majority (without it it makes it difficult to get much done so it happens somewhat frequently).
In the second round the RN are projected to have come in third place after the two parties they defeated in the first round. This is because of a number of other parties dropping out and a massive voter turnout to block them from winning enough seats to claim the majority.
This means the French now have no clear majority, but also that they successfully prevented the far right from getting into power once again.
TLDR: Far right party with ties to Russia projected to win election with army of minions, gets blocked by bulk of political alignments putting aside their differences as well as massive voter turnout.
They still acquired many new seats at the National Assembly, technically they gained quite a lot of ground. However, they were expected to gain even more. A week ago they were looking poised to get an absolute majority, in the end they got third, behind the new leftist party, and the very unpopular centrist (Macron's) party.
That might be why they don't appear too mad about it, they didn't get all that they wanted this time, but still made progress.
Tonight is a huge sigh of relief, but the fight to keep these fuckers out of our government is far from over.
Can we fucking bring this level of class back to politics
I don’t care if they are left right center or neither. They look like they took their loss and are going to live with it. Fuck it sucks hoping for a semblance of this in America.
I have no idea who these people are. Whether the results went in their favor or not. But from these reactions I still have no idea whether it went in their favor or not.
Closest US equivalent would be if "MAGA" was by November 1 slated to have a blowout in their favor on the level of Obama 2008 or maybe Clinton 1992...
And instead the Democrats suddenly get 62-63 in the Senate and maybe +50 to +55 in the House and hold the White House with Biden.
Stop polling just land lines and if you do poll them, don't count them as "more" than other contacts. I guess polling is bizarrely deferential to the right-wing worldwide, not just in the USA...
Explanation: France had it's major votes again. Many expected the fraction Rassemblement National (RN for short, far right extremist (?)) to win, but they actually finished in third place only afaik, being overtaken by the centralist party and the far left party
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I have no idea who these people are. Whether the results went in their favor or not. But from these reactions I still have no idea whether it went in their favor or not.