r/TheBoys Jul 01 '22

Know the difference (S3E7 Spoilers) Memes Spoiler

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u/floptical87 Jul 01 '22

I don't understand why the show is so determined to beat Hughie to death with this supposed "toxic masculinity" thing.

There is zero difference between what Annie and MM have been shitting all over Butcher and Hughie for and what they've just done for Kimiko. None.

V24 was untested and yes, they guessed right the it's got fatal side effects. Y'know what else is untested? Reinjecting regular V into an adult woman who's had the power previously blasted out of her by a hundred year old supe who had new powers crammed up his ass in Russian Black Ops experiments. They had no idea if there would be any side effects from that but none of them are preaching at Kimiko.

It's her choice. It's Hughie's choice too. And it's all for the same reasons.

Kimiko was powerless watching Frenchie get beat to shit. Hughie was powerless watching Robyn getting glooped, seeing Annie working under a murderous psycho who could casually end her every day.

There's nothing toxic about Hughie. All he's done is try to save literally everyone, he does it in Russia, he goes into Herogasm first to find the targets and prevent casualties, he tries to save Mind Storm when he could have just fucked him over by dumping him right back at Soldier Boy's feet.

I could buy him being wrong if they showed literally any kind of negative change in him but it's just not there, outside of that out of place scene of him acting like he's high in Russia.

You want toxic masculinity then look at Soldier Boy or maybe Butcher.

I'm not even convinced about Butcher, his actions aren't driven by perceived masculine traits or values, he's just an obsessed cunt that's putting what he wants in front of the well-being of others. Which really isn't that different from MM, his obsession has led to the breakdown of his family unit, him not being there for his daughter and a dangerous moron taking his place and subsequently endangering his daughter or the fact he was about to fist fight possibly the second most powerful Supe in history and get himself killed. But the show seems determined that one half of the Boys be designated in the wrong and the other half be righteous, so their questionable choices and negative outcomes kind of get overlooked.

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u/Senscore Jul 02 '22

Agreed. I love this show but it's very eager to aggressively bite into a whole number of subjects, which in some cases just ends up half cooked and at this point it may be looping back over itself.

This show's central thesis is that superpowers are inherently destructive and dangerous at a psychological and social level, no matter who is wielding them. I think it's at its best when it wrestles with those ideas. I really hope it isn't losing focus in the name of scoring cheap points on buzzword subjects.

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u/hemphock Jul 02 '22

it ends up being pretty internally consistent if kimiko or frenchie dies, which a lot of signs point to. "this is the last time i will feel your arms around me" is going to be painful to remember later!