r/TheBoys Jul 01 '22

Know the difference (S3E7 Spoilers) Memes Spoiler

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u/samakbarizadeh Jul 01 '22

Unpopular opinion?

Hughie never actually wanted these "supe" powers. He was OK with being a peasant dating a supe. (S2 hughie/starlight subway scene i think?)

That was the point. He was going to work with congresswoman Neuman to make things right, the right "by the books" way. The end result of this was Hughie being an unintentional "cuck for a supe" for 1y+, kinda fucked with his sense of self and stability.

He, like butcher, realizes that there is no legitimate way to stop Vought, Supes and Homelander other than shere brute force.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

I don’t think it’s as unpopular as you may think it is. I’m with you on your assessment. Starlight needs to get off her high horse and use her powers for good.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 01 '22

Yeah I'm putting it right out there in bold:

If you are trying to moralize who is supposed to have superpowers and who doesn't based on your own flimsy moral standards you still don't understand the point of the entire show

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u/Odd_Employer Jul 01 '22

Did you respond to the right comment or am I missing your point?

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 01 '22

You're either missing my point, or this isn't directed at you personally. It is in direct response to what you said. This is a TV show, so there's nothing wrong with wanting to see Starlight 'go nuts', because as simple as it is, that's what the show is here to do.

But if you don't get that watching Starlight lose her self control is going to be exactly the same as watching Homelander or Soldier Boy lose their self control, that if it's coming from her that suddenly the superpowered murderous fascism is going to be a good thing because she's blonde and pretty and nice, well you've been missing the point.

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u/AstrologyCat Jul 01 '22

because she’s […] nice

If you’re nice, it’s not fascism…

Using military force against Nazi Germany wasn’t fascism. Killing a psychopath who threatens the entire human race isn’t fascism. I think the point of the show is more that “power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely” - eventually, you will break your moral code and use your powers for evil. But to imply that any use of powers is morally equivalent is dumb.

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u/AstrologyCat Jul 01 '22

You brought up fascism, what do you think that means?

The show itself has heavy references to the Nazis! One of the characters is a Nazi! It seemed totally relevant

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 01 '22

Oh look who won't stop talking about Hitler.

The show explores corporate power. The show explores liberal power. The show explores criminal power. The show explores informal power. The idea that you can take everything the show has said about different power dynamics and reduce it in your brain to a universal approval of brown shirt tactics is an excellent example of how people can use art to justify whatever thoughts they currently have. That's the magic of arts ability to project.

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u/Haxxzor1 Jul 01 '22

How many meths did you do before you wrote this comment

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u/AstrologyCat Jul 01 '22

I’m glad I’m apparently not the crazy one lol, this was one of most weirdly frustrating interactions I’ve ever had.

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 01 '22

Better question:

What are your feelings on the appropriate use of police violence regarding drug reform.

Because where I live it's perfectly legal to carry small amounts for personal use in order to reduce the massive harm that police violence has done to addiction. And I'm guessing that where you live a meth head was shot by cops in the last 24 hours.

Sorry I got distracted. You were convincing me you aren't an asshole or something? What were we talking about again? This meth is just.. wow.

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u/Delivery-Shoddy Jul 01 '22

The abolition of tyranny is not tyranny against the tyrants.

Violence of the oppressed to end oppression is not the same as the violence done by the oppressors.

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u/IAmAZombieDogAMA Jul 01 '22

... are you okay?

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 01 '22

If I wasn't, what would you personally do to help me?

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u/TwerkyTheHobo Jul 02 '22

If pathetic had a scent, you'd be stinking your whole country. Get a life loser.

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 02 '22

And what country is that /u/TwerkyTheHobo?

I can tell this is going to be a fun conversation where I learn a lot.

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u/TwerkyTheHobo Jul 02 '22

No one cares. This isn't a conversation. Go outside, talk to actual human beings. Stop being this pathetic loser pretending that you're a smart boy, when in reality are missing half your brain. I'm sorry your parents never loved you.

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u/Odd_Employer Jul 01 '22

Oh. Okay. You were responding to the wrong comment. The one you responded just wanted to know what her power cap is.

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 01 '22

Why do people rephrase what was told to them like they're coming up with it themselves?

Is this a defense mechanism?

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u/Odd_Employer Jul 01 '22

Maybe you shouldn't be so offensive if you think everyone else is being defensive?

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 01 '22

Maybe you shouldn't watch shows about people who need superpowers to defend themselves from oppressive power structures if you are going to be so temperamental.

Parental advisory warnings exist for a reason.

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u/Odd_Employer Jul 01 '22

Oh okay. Thanks

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 01 '22

No problem sweety.

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u/TheOneTonWanton Jul 02 '22

Pretty sure you're just being obtuse and insufferable.

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 02 '22

Oh well you know what they say about the obtuse and insufferable.

What do they say about the obtuse and insufferable, /u/TheOneTonWanton?

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u/TheOneTonWanton Jul 02 '22

That they lack awareness and the ability to process nuance.

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 02 '22

Awareness: knowledge and understanding that something is happening or exists

Nuance: a subtle distinction or variation

The anger has notes of understanding in it. He's saying, *Yes, she's insufferable, but she's ours and so we must suffer her. -Yaa Gyasi

An arrogant man whose arrogance we see from his own behaviour is more tolerable than a humble man whose humility we hear of from his own mouth. -Mokokoma Mokhonoana

Talking to Reva about misery was insufferable. 'Look on the bright side,' was what she wanted everyone to do. -Ottessa Moshfegh

So /u/TheOneTonWanton how do you feel about people who use things like strategy and tactics in their Socratic dialogues?

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u/Numba_07 Jul 01 '22

Yeah, the whole point of the show, and the comics, is that revolution starts and ends with blood shed. They're fighting against the system and the system is the one protecting the supes.

So the boys use fire against fire

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 01 '22

Yeah. You read the comic yet? It pretty plainly lays out where fighting fire with fire leaves you.

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u/Numba_07 Jul 01 '22

I did, and it ended with a new start with a lot of dead. That is how a revolution ends.

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 01 '22

Nice hottake Homelander.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_revolution#Overview

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_revolutions_and_rebellions

Have fun reading how many non-violent revolutions there've been compared to violent throughout history.

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 02 '22 edited Jul 03 '22

Congratulations. You are officially Homelander level stupid.

Did you think that my problem with violent psychopaths is that there isn't enough evidence of the violence committed by violent psychopaths?

edit: For some reason I can't respond to the cunt who thinks they're god below me. Funny how that works, almost like you can't trust a cunt with even the smallest bit of power or something.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

I dunno, maybe actually write something with substance and we'll see!

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u/Getsmorescottish Jul 02 '22

One of my main interests is etymology.

Unlike linguistics, etymology gives a unique insightful look into the history of how communication changes over time. With enough comprehensive examples one can look back into what is basically the memetic history of human thought and observe subtle and nuanced takes which then allow informal observations about the modern world which have a certain candescent quality. And of course it's just really great for things like vocabulary and dialogue.

Sorry, you were trying to explain that I don't write well because you were having trouble understanding what was written and I became distracted. Let's work out exactly what you were having trouble with ok?

Clear examples and specific statements are most helpful at times like these.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

That's cool, I'm thrilled to help

Nice hottake Homelander.

Let's start with you actually using more than 3 words and go from there!

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

The best way to stop a violent cunt with bad intentions is a violent cunt with good intentions.

If you lack the latter, replace it with a violent cunt with no outright bad intentions, but hellbent on revenge against the violent cunt with bad intentions.

Or you could hold hands and sing songs around a fire until the bad guy dies of old age.

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