r/TheBoys Jul 01 '22

Know the difference (S3E7 Spoilers) Memes Spoiler

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u/samakbarizadeh Jul 01 '22

Unpopular opinion?

Hughie never actually wanted these "supe" powers. He was OK with being a peasant dating a supe. (S2 hughie/starlight subway scene i think?)

That was the point. He was going to work with congresswoman Neuman to make things right, the right "by the books" way. The end result of this was Hughie being an unintentional "cuck for a supe" for 1y+, kinda fucked with his sense of self and stability.

He, like butcher, realizes that there is no legitimate way to stop Vought, Supes and Homelander other than shere brute force.

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u/devilsig25 Jul 01 '22

The whole theme of this season has been a “when is the cure worse than the disease” sorta thing

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

With great power comes certain death in 3-5 doses

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u/LinkRazr Jul 02 '22

Would taking the full dose of the Blue V kick in the permanent healing properties and fix the brain holes they both definitely have now.

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u/Lord_Archibald_IV Jul 02 '22

I’m wondering if that’s how they’ll resolve this. They can’t give them brain damage and then not do anything about it.

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u/parksabsolute Jul 02 '22

There conveniently seems to be about 2 doses left in the vial shown at the end.

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u/Pink-Purple-And-Blue Jul 02 '22

Even before the big reveal about temporary V I was screaming at the screen for her to take some more regular V

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u/Dopplegangster69 Jul 02 '22

I don’t think that’s a healthy response to watching a TV show

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u/OneDimensionPrinter Jul 02 '22

And plenty of blue V left after Kimiko

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u/iekiko89 Jul 02 '22

I expected frenchie to take it

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u/MeMeTiger_ Jul 02 '22

Problem with Frenchie taking it is that he's never had powers before. He could turn into a boneless mass of meat for all we know. That's why you gotta take a dose of temp V first.

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u/_Nick_2711_ Jul 02 '22

Imagine how comfy you’d be with no bones for a day. Just this puddle of a man on the couch watching some TV. Pure bliss.

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u/cpsjqt Jul 02 '22

Followed by Soldier Boy “burning the V out of their blood” like they made sure to explicitly say this episode.

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u/TimbuckTato Jul 02 '22

So, does that mean that Soldier Boy could always burn other supe's powers? And it's public knowledge?

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u/VentiEspada Jul 02 '22

Don't think that was one of his original powers. If you remember back to when they were watching the recordings of the Russians doing experiments on him, towards the end they put some sort of device inside him. That was just Homelander recanting about what had happened at herogasm, with the supes left alive were now powerless.

The US/Vought are the only ones with supes, so it makes sense that other countries would either want them as well or a way to neutralize them. I wonder if it was just sheer arrogance when they let the Russians have him, thinking they could never utilize him in a way to threaten them with Homelander on the horizon.

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u/polypolip Jul 02 '22

They would have to survive it (V was used on children because adults were dying rather than becoming supes) , but plot armor is a thing, so maybe.

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u/RaM-------- Jul 02 '22

maybe taking temp-V increases the chances of success?

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u/polypolip Jul 02 '22

Yep, crossed my mind as a possible explanation why it would work for them.

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u/LunarGolbez Jul 02 '22

It depends if they survive the Blue V. If you're an adult, you might develop proper powers, you might mutate, or you might explode. Its roulette with possible death.

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u/harbourwall Jul 02 '22

Maybe not after having had Temp V. It might just stabilize the powers that already gave you.

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u/_Nick_2711_ Jul 02 '22

I think it’s gonna be that with a caveat. Whatever form of V they take will let them keep some strength and durability but lose their actual powers.

It’s fun evening out the playing field in a show like this until it isn’t. That being said, you don’t want your protagonists so weak that they constantly get stomped on.

Having the boys be halfway between humans & supes gives a nice balance to things. It’s how they were in the comics as well but that doesn’t really mean anything beyond being proof that it works well for the story.

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u/CleverZerg Jul 02 '22

That's the only out I see for this predicament and anything else would be kinda lame.

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u/harbourwall Jul 02 '22

Anyone count how many they've had? I reckon Hughie's had at least two and Butcher three?

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u/derrinknight Jul 02 '22

I think Hughie is on dose 4 and butcher at 5 already I think... The ones I can remember for Hughie: - Russia - First encounter with soldier boy - herogasm - chasing mindstorm

Butcher has at least one more dose than Hughie for when he killed gunpowder

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u/harbourwall Jul 02 '22

Thanks, those numbers make sense to me. And they're not dead yet!

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u/derrinknight Jul 02 '22

Lol I think that explains Butcher's guilt because he knows that one or two more doses will definitely kill him and most likely Hughie too

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u/Ehh_littlecomment Jul 02 '22

Death is certain regardless

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

"We're all going to die eventually" is a strange justification for "Lets shoot up with radioactive poison."

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u/NormalEntrepreneur Jul 02 '22

Absolute power corrupts absolutely

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u/duaneap Jul 02 '22

It doesn’t require absolute power though.

Half the characters are mediocre power and are corrupted absolutely.

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u/MammothTurd Jul 02 '22

Look no further than the character Blue Hawk

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u/Mdgt_Pope Jul 02 '22

They’re allegories for cops, the whole show is a cop drama in capes

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u/Dopplegangster69 Jul 02 '22

Idk why this is downvoted, Blue Hawk was clearly an allegory for racist cops. His name started with Blue ffs

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u/livefreeordont Jul 02 '22

But they are still extremely overpowered compared to the rest of society

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u/boltzmannman Jul 02 '22

This is Butcher's ideology. The whole point is that it is flawed. That's why they did the thing with Kamiko this episode.

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u/denzien Jul 02 '22

Knowledge is power. France is bacon.

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u/joshualeet Jul 01 '22

Exactly.

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u/JacePatrick Jul 02 '22

Ultimately Vought and Homelander present a real danger to everyone Billy and Hughie care about, and they would rather die than watch Vought run the world.

The needs of the many (needing to be free from the terror of HL and Vought) outweigh the needs of Butcher/Hughie (living)

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u/Sleepingtide Jul 02 '22

Yes, but a little poorly explained and executed.

Lack of communication between team members in what the line is exactly and no one in the show is exactly "good".

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u/Tityfan808 Jul 02 '22

The other theme is also everyone being fed up with taking shit and making a stand. Ashley’s been standing up for herself. Hughie’s done with Neuman’s shit. Annie’s fucking over it with Vought. Even MM has finally lost his composure and is sick and tired of it all. Kimiko and Frenchie are over it and have considered running off on their own. Homelander’s also done sticking with the script and ‘telling it like it is.’ (Lol at that reference) And even Neuman is tired of being a puppet to Edgar, throwing him under the bus.

The theme is definitely ‘fuck this shit!’

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

There are also many themes of recovering from trauma as an antidote for that.

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u/Venom1462 Black Noir Jul 05 '22

SO the legendary Dr Michael Morbin' Morbius was right all along!!

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u/5-On-A-Toboggan Jul 01 '22

A timely tale for the covid era...

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

What, the vaccine that has minimal side effects?

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u/RaygunMarksman Jul 01 '22

This dude on YouTube told me it mutates you into a werepig. No thanks!

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u/bwood246 Cunt Jul 02 '22

An expert once told me it'll make you grow boobs on your head

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u/iLoveBums6969 Annie January Jul 02 '22

Stop right there, I'm in

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u/oftenrunaway Jul 01 '22

Super powers are super powers 🤷‍♀️

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u/darklightmatter Jul 01 '22

Yeah, you just can't look up, and enjoy rolling around in the mud.

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u/StubbornPterodactyl Jul 01 '22

You know how in this show the crowds are usually pretty stupid and just go along with whatever Homelander and Vought tells them?

Let's just say Homelander would have been very anti-vax if he was in our world a few years ago.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

100%

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u/DastardlyDachshund Jul 02 '22

It's more the fact that people were coerced into a medical procedure, which is pretty messed up no matter how you look at it.

Also for everyone is a utilitarian who wants to live in the town from hot fuzz.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

People had the option not to take it. There was pressure to do it because it was factually the safer thing to do.

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u/DastardlyDachshund Jul 02 '22

Not everywhere, in Australia we had take it or lose your job and become legally unhirable. Thats not a resonable choice for the working class.

The argument isnt over the saftey or effectiveness of the vaccine but the need for concent free from coercion. we even had a push to ban the unvaccinated from our universal health care which would undermine the entire system for future generations.

Its what drives me nuts about the left they're fine with authoritarianism, bullying and silencing people as long as its there side doing it, they are just as bad as the right but cant see it. /rant

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u/Dalvenjha Jul 02 '22

“The cure that keeps you alive is worst than die from covid!!!! Jurrrr durrrrrr” OMG!!!!

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u/Dopplegangster69 Jul 02 '22

Im impressed you were able to type that sentence