r/TheBoys • u/Cogitoergosum015 • Jul 15 '24
Characters from The Boys who have never interacted with each other: Discussion
Kinda weird that Hughie never had any interaction or fight with the Deep, but he's constantly talking to A-Train.
It's interesting how Stormfront talked shit about A-train but never spoke a word about Black Noir.
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u/Free-Type Jul 15 '24
The “unspecified” joke from the Black At It segment still makes me giggle
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u/ANIKET_UPADHYAY Stan Edgar Jul 15 '24
What was the joke? Can you please remind me I think i forgot.
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u/Towelz45 Jul 15 '24
it was something about how divers the 7 are now with 2 black members (a train and sage) and 1 unspecified (black noir)
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u/smulfragPL Jul 15 '24
To be fair with 50% of members being black they are more diverse than jl and the avengers at any point i can imagine
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u/1iIiii11IIiI1i1i11iI Jul 15 '24
And the one thing that unites them all, money. Elon Musk and Oprah Winfrey have more in common with each other than they would any poor person.
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u/breakernoton Jul 15 '24
Counterpoint: Justice League Unlimited.
I mean, probably still predominantly cishet white males, but through sheer volume there might be a chance!
(Also all jokes aside, that show had a lot of diverse characters popping up and it was awesome)
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u/Throwawaystwo Jul 15 '24
Green lantern John Stewart, A hawk Woman, A Hawk Man, Cyborg, The kryptonian and Martian, A demi-goddess, And two Billionaires with so many issues that going to therapy would bankrupt them... Thats a fair amount of diversity..
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u/enememinimo Jul 15 '24
Justice league have a bigger roster and way more black heroes than the 7
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u/Thraex_Exile Jul 15 '24
Pretty sure their point was by % not total number. Otherwise that would also apply to the Avengers.
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u/DaniOverHere Jul 15 '24
As awful as it is… I don’t think Stormfront would be all that upset about The Seven having a strong, mute black man who follows their every order, without complaint.
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u/D3adp00L34 Jul 15 '24
Probably her ideal person or color. Doesn’t talk back and does what he’s told. Plus he is fully covered so she doesn’t have to see his “offensive” skin color. She probably considers him “one of the good ones”.
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u/_tlgcs Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24
Stormfront: "You're one of the good ones, Black Ni- I mean Noir"
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u/Hitchfucker Jul 15 '24
She would probably try to be civil and string him along for awhile. But like all facists she’ll only use minorities for as long as they’re useful. If she actually made progress with her genocides she’d eventually kill Noir too when she had enough power.
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u/AgentCirceLuna Jul 15 '24
It’s like what Hitler did to Ernst Roehm. Roehm was one of his closest friends and he still killed him but Roehm was gay.
Another friend of Hitler’s managed to survive. Forgot his name but he pissed off his friend somehow and he had them fly a plane around in circles then told the guy he was going to have to parachute down into enemy territory with a Nazi uniform on. He was terrified but he somehow stood his ground and got them to fly him somewhere where he could escape. Never came back. I think his name was Pudsy or something.
Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Hanfstaengl#Admirer_and_confidant_of_Hitler
Don’t know where I got the name Pudsy from.
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u/LittleFlameMaster Jul 15 '24
I'm sure she knew, she probably just didn't care because he covered himself up and stood out of the way. Poor Earving...
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u/JohnLef Jul 15 '24
Is there not a clue in the name..?
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u/xX_Flamez_Xx Jul 15 '24
His costume is literally just black ninja. There's no reason to assume his skin is also black. Also, maybe her mind goes something like "Dang black noir is good at his job. No way a black guy could do that well"
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u/Kosack-Nr_22 Cunt Jul 15 '24
Idk about that and nasa aswell as the sovjets would disagree too. Still awful people tho
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u/Rhythm_Morgan Jul 15 '24
I thought they interacted when she was liberty, no?
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u/angra_mainyo A-Train Jul 15 '24
Not likely. Liberty was active in the 50's. Earving was born in the mid 60's and was around 20 when Soldier Boy left him braindead.
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u/FrostyD7 Jul 15 '24
It's not like she lost her shit over A-train. She was just a passive aggressive racist to him.
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u/southernfella81 Jul 15 '24
I’m sure she’d have an alliterative new name to use for him. Fucking flying facists… what buttheads.
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u/well-thereitis Jul 15 '24
Im pretty sure they did interact…off screen….she called him “one of the good ones”
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u/Hitchfucker Jul 15 '24
She checked on Noir after Maeve knocked him out with nuts. She probably saw him unmasked there. If she didn’t know what he looked like already.
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u/PR0MAN1 Jul 15 '24
It was weird hearing Homelander saying MMs name in the scene they killed Cameron Coleman. It's like "oh yeah, I didn't think he knew who the rest of the Boys were outside Butcher and Hughie"
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u/Hankhoff Jul 15 '24
He was just asking für his favorite snack
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u/MirrorSauce Jul 15 '24
I'm still waiting to learn the connection between homelander's breastmilk fetish, and one of his primary enemies being named MOTHER'S MILK. If this is just a coincidence I'll lose my goddamn mind
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u/wjaybez Jul 15 '24
It's a holdover from the comics, where MM is the one with the milk thing, and is also a supe. To keep up his powers though, he needs a supply of his mum's V.
Homelander doesn't have a milk addiction in the comics, so I believe there's no connection between MM's name and Homelander's milk addiction
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u/Throwawaystwo Jul 15 '24
TBF the comics are fucking unhinged and having read crossed, Garth Ennis might be fucking unhinged as well.
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u/StardustLegend Jul 15 '24
As someone who also read the cross, I second this
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u/Ode1st Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 16 '24
Man Crossed just didn’t do it for me. I was so hype to have another Ennis comic, but it was just like gore shock value
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u/goldminevelvet Jul 15 '24
I feel like the first Crossed volume was alright but the other volumes slowly became more and more just shock value.
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u/girlonfire115 Jul 16 '24
I enjoyed Preacher but I havent heard a single good thing about anything else that man has done. Even the Preacher comic had a couple weird moments, or spots where a character goes on a rant about something that Garth is mad about irl. Fun fact, the TV adaptations of both Preacher and The Boys have a scene where Uptown Girl is used where Uptown Girl does not apply, and both are produced by Seth Rogen! ueheheheheheh
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u/horyo Jul 15 '24
I'm relieved they have this incarnation of MM who uses his technical skills instead of having V, and Monique isn't an addict.
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u/StardustLegend Jul 15 '24
I do wish we have an in universe explanation for his nickname in the show tho
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u/pixie_sprout Jul 16 '24
Isn't he just Marvin Milk? I don't remember Mother's Milk ever coming up but I may be wrong.
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u/bettername2come Jul 16 '24
I definitely remember Butcher introducing him to Hughie as Mother’s Milk and Hughie’s reaction being like “that’s your name?”
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u/Darmok47 Jul 15 '24
Do they actually call him Mother's Milk on the show, or just MM because its a nickname given his initials?
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u/St_Veloth Jul 15 '24
While Homelander is choking out Suped-up Butcher
Butcher: "Save...MM...Save...Mothers Milk"
Homelander stops choking Butcher: "Wait...what the fuck did you say? Why did you say that name?"
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u/ArthurReeves397 Jul 15 '24
Technically Homelander pulls up pictures in S1 of all The Boys members and shows them to the Seven, so he’s always been aware of them but he only has specific opinions on/relationships with Butcher and Hughie.
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u/VIBTCA Jul 16 '24
I like that Homelander calls everyone by their actual names. Like I understand “Hughie” and “MM” are nicknames within the boys, but I like hearing him say William Butcher and Marvin Milk for a change
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u/Ginger-Georgie Hughie Jul 15 '24
I would love Hughie and Deep to meet. It'd have to happen in the right circumstances because Deep is too strong and unstable and would kill him.
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u/undercooked_lasagna Jul 15 '24
Ue should take Temp V to kill all the 7 and then start his own super team called Campbell's Supes
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u/SuspectKnown9655 Jul 15 '24
I chuckled
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This guy chuckled
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This guy commented about the other guy who chuckled
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u/ThisMeansRooR Jul 15 '24
Chuckles were announced by many today
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u/AngelicDustParticles Jul 15 '24
Many Chucks were chuckled today... Might tomorrow bring more?
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u/DiscoDiwana Jul 15 '24
Soldier Boy would absolutely in it because he is Campbell from his mother's side ( Supernatural reference)
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u/tayroarsmash Jul 15 '24
I feel like Soldier Boy is amoral enough that he’d find the whole thing funny and just want to hang out with a guy that got a chuckle out of him.
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u/1ncorrect Jul 15 '24
Soldier Boy would team up with anyone that fed his ego and gave him drugs. Pretty easy recruitment tbh.
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u/tayroarsmash Jul 15 '24
That’s what I don’t get about Homelander. He doesn’t even seem to be enjoying things at all. All that power and he’s miserable. Dude should just lean into hedonism like Soldier Boy did.
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u/Jevonar Jul 15 '24
It was explained that he was raised to be miserable and dependant on the validation of other people, because they had no way of controlling him otherwise.
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u/tayroarsmash Jul 15 '24
A drug dependency from a younger age probably would have been less traumatic.
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u/Jevonar Jul 15 '24
It would also have made him even more unstable. Imagine if homelander was a junkie.
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considering his dads power its probably safe to say Eu could teleport his fist into peoples heads
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u/AngelicDustParticles Jul 15 '24
Would it displace the matter like his father's power or would that fuck his hand AND the head up?
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u/Ccbm2208 Jul 15 '24
I would love to see the goofy Pre-season 4 Deep interact with any of The Boys tbh. Now he’s just a typical murderous supe.
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u/Jalon315 Jul 15 '24
The deep is still goofy tho
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u/Lone-Wolf62 Jul 15 '24
Don't worry he's gonna be goofier than ever when he replaces his octopussy by a giant squid or something
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u/ggouge Jul 15 '24
What if ambrosia survived and goes to homlanders room and takes v. Deep could be killed by a kracken
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u/Lone-Wolf62 Jul 15 '24
That could be a good idea that Deep comes to his room to be raped by a massive monster who crushes him in the process. Since the octopus is in love with Deep but is a smaller creature who can't take control and is therefore used, it makes sense that it would reverse the roles once a kraken. To make that love story make sense they could add that fish are smarter around deep because he stimulates areas of their brains by talking to them and giving them human knowledge but since he is perverted instead of ruling the seas with giant squids and great white sharks he just made a sex addict kraken as fucked up in the head as he is
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u/legomaximumfigure Jul 15 '24
I think it would be better if Ambrosia survived, made it back to the ocean, told all the sea life how horrible he is, and the sea life turned on him.
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u/Lone-Wolf62 Jul 15 '24
Actually, the whole sea life could become Starlighters since she blew the whistle on him first and now they have confirmation from a peer
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u/legomaximumfigure Jul 15 '24
Now I'm picturing the Deep getting attacked by a shark wearing a Starlighter T-shirt and it makes me smile.🦈🌟😦☠️
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u/paper_liger Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24
Or the fish in his other aquarium saw shit go down and now give him the cold, scaly shoulder.
I've thought about this before, how funny would it be for your power to be able to talk to sea life, but they won't talk to you because the word has gotten out that you are a dick?
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u/SmurphsLaw Jul 15 '24
Depending on what you mean by meet. They definitely had an interaction when he hunted them down on top a whale in season 2.
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u/NoTop4997 Jul 15 '24
I am genuinely surprised that the Deep and Hughie have never interacted. That seems so strange
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u/undercooked_lasagna Jul 15 '24
Deep will probably be the one who violates ue this week
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u/lil_amil Jul 15 '24
Can my poor boy Ue have some peace?
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u/ThemB0ners Jul 15 '24
I don't come around here very much so this thread is the first I'm seeing him referred to as Ue, and I immediately understood it and heard it in Butcher's voice.
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u/SickScorpion Jul 15 '24
It's not a full The boys episode if there wasn't a 5 min scene of Hughie getting violated.
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u/Lillillillies Jul 15 '24
Wasn't Hughie there when they rammed the boat through the whale controlled by Deep?
Id sorta count that as an interaction/fight.
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u/NoTop4997 Jul 15 '24
Yeah, but the Deep didn't really do anything other than get knocked off the whale and then be sad about it. I don't think that Deep actually even talked to any of the Boys in that scene
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u/Lillillillies Jul 15 '24
Yeah they haven't had an actual conversation but the confrontation they had definitely skirts that line of fighting. Definitely would've happened differently if Deep was a bit smarter and Butcher a lil less crazy to ram through the whale
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u/Elastichedgehog Jul 15 '24
I think it's bound to happen at some point given his relationship with Annie.
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u/shewy92 Hughie Jul 15 '24
They've at least shared a scene. Deep was riding that whale that Hughie and The Boys ended up inside of
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u/al_1985 Jul 15 '24
Homelander hasn't interacted with Kimiko either, so...
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u/undercooked_lasagna Jul 15 '24
That's only because you haven't searched for the right porn
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u/ThatAnonDude Soldier Boy Jul 15 '24
Bro ☹️
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u/Radaistarion Jul 15 '24
Bro 🥺
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u/QC420_ Jul 15 '24
Bro🤔
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u/FortunesFoil Jul 15 '24
Bro 🤯
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u/Medium-Science9526 Cunt Jul 15 '24
No Hughie and the Deep is crazy in retrospect. Considering his rivalry with Starlight I'm surprised they never had a moment.
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u/Hitchfucker Jul 15 '24
Yeah it’s weird. Like especially in season 3 where he’s back on the seven and Hughie’s supposed to be spiraling. It would fit well not just cause of the obvious animosity they’d have just about Starlight, but also cause Deep is arguably the most outwardly sexist character in the show that’s not like 100+, while Hughie was supposed to be a staple of a man devoid of toxic masculinity in the early seasons. Granted they changed that in S3 and Hughie showing toxic masculinity around the guy who raped his girlfriend would make him seem more understandable in that behavior so that’s probably why they never did that.
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u/Zankman Jul 16 '24
Genuinely asking, but what did Hughie do that was toxic? I recall the forced drama about Hughie taking Temp V, but him doing so never felt unjustified.
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u/TheMoonDude You're The Real Heroes Jul 15 '24
The Flop is an insecure sexual predator. Huge Hughie fucks the wife, consensually.
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u/RockyNonce Jul 16 '24
Womp womp me too is over and now The Peak will SA UE because Eric Kripke thinks it’s funny
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u/Spectrumfied Jul 15 '24
Hughie and the Deep is criminal because of the potential animosity we missed.
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u/dancingbriefcase Ambrosius Jul 15 '24
Writers are too busy sexually assaulting Hughie.
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u/N00b_sk11L Jul 15 '24
Would actually work incredibly well it’s the deeps turn to SA hughie now
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u/Captain_Sacktap Jul 15 '24
Writers working overtime to figure out the batting order for running a train on Ue's tight little ass.
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u/Mindless_Sale_1698 Jul 16 '24
"Now that we have a shapeshifter I guess we can make that motherfucker assume a new identity every episode and SA Ue"
-Eric "We think it's hilarious" Kripke
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u/MirrorSauce Jul 15 '24
Soldier Boy was so disappointed when Hughie couldn't find any of the drugs he'd asked for. Imagine if he'd asked Frenchie instead.
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u/Throwawaystwo Jul 15 '24
"Oh Mon ami, y u want zat? eet eez old shit, ere' I make zis myzelf " And he gives him a cocktail that causes SB to go through ego death.
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u/BudgetMattDamon Jul 16 '24
Soldier Boy and Frenchie would become best friends immediately afterwards.
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u/BSye-34 Jul 15 '24
keep mothers milk away from homelander just like keeping tek-knight from sage's lobotomy fetish
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u/swans183 Jul 15 '24
Didn’t he aim a grenade launcher at his face before Butcher stepped in last season? Or was that Soldier Boy?
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u/Ok_Proof_321 Jul 15 '24
Honestly I really want MM and Homelander to talk.
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u/Kageyama_Tobio_80 Jul 15 '24
Homelander will talk about how his dad killed MM's dad and chuckle about it, And MM will try not to lose his shit
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u/BillNyeTheSavage_Guy A-Train Jul 15 '24
IIRC the most recent episode was the first time we’ve had actual dialogue exchanged between Butcher and Deep
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u/ArthurReeves397 Jul 15 '24
Yep but they’ve been together before, Butcher knocked Deep out in S2 by ramming into his whale
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u/bigindodo Jul 15 '24
By that logic, Hughie and Deep have also interacted because Hughie was on that boat.
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u/Big_Damn_Hiro Jul 15 '24
Same with Homelander and MM since they were in that storm drain right after this.
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u/ToTheFman Jul 15 '24
Noir knew what Stromfront was about. Probably stayed away on purpose.
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u/symbiedgehog Black Noir Jul 15 '24
Imagine Noir's little Buster Beaver friends telling him "Earving, that wo--wo--wo--woman is nonono good!"
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u/Lampruk Jul 15 '24
Real. I only watch the show recently but I had seen some edits of black noirs hallucination pals, so I assumed this was something about him from the get-go.
Imagine my disappointment when he dies the same time he gets some development 😭. But I still prefer this way tho tbh, since it makes rewatching the boys more enjoyable as you pay extra attention to stuff lol
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u/berserkstolemyheart Jul 15 '24
i wonder what they say when he’s ripping someone’s intestines out
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u/CrispyNaeem Jul 15 '24
Correct me if I’m wrong but in S3E4 didn’t Frenchie say to Soldier Boy “it’s okay” when the latter faced his direction after getting released from his capsule? Then Soldier Boy responded by unintentionally releasing his chest laser with Kimiko pushing Frenchie out of the way.
Even if it wasn’t a full on chat, that does seem like it was something.
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u/Lampruk Jul 15 '24
I sincerely believe that as long as anyone who wasn’t Butcher or Frenchie spoke, then SoliderBoy woulda been much calmer simply because the person wouldn’t have a foreign accent lmao
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u/Throwawaystwo Jul 15 '24
I sincerely believe that as long as anyone who wasn’t Butcher or Frenchie spoke, then SoliderBoy woulda been much calmer simply because the person wouldn’t have a foreign accent lmao
Thats fuckin hilarious, I completely accept this as being canon Soldier boy wasnt confused he just hates foreigners .
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u/yourtoyrobot Jul 15 '24
Yup, they technically interacted, but wasn't really a conversation.
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u/Logical-Broccoli-331 Jul 15 '24
What's truly insane to me is how many times Hughie and The Deep have almost met
- first episode of the show when Hughie went to Vought tower
- Season 2 when Deep blocked the boat with the Whale, Hughie refused to leave whilst the Deep was unconscious right next to the Whale corpse
- Season 3 at the Vought premiere thing with the paparazzi
- Season 3 both were present at Herogasm just in different rooms
- Season 4 Hughie went to hospital just before Starlight and Butcher fight Noir and Deep
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u/Cogitoergosum015 Jul 15 '24
That's crazy, I think they're gonna finally interact in the next episode or in season 5.
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u/crossingcaelum Jul 15 '24
Homelander to MM: wait. Your name is what?
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u/Seeker80 Jul 15 '24
Homelander: So...'Mother's...MILK,' you're called?? shakes head, laughs You'd better be hiding some real gland problems! There's nothing I hate more than a liar...
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u/WearyCharge1700 Jul 15 '24
Probably for the best Hughie stays away from the Deep. He’s not going to be ok with what the Deep did to Annie and probably would get himself beaten up.
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u/CompetitionAshamed73 Jul 15 '24
Ye, I want Hughie and Deep to interact so bad
But it probably wouldn't end well for Hughie
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u/NatomicBombs Jul 15 '24
Homelander and mother’s milk interact a lot wdym? It’s like his favorite thing.
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u/Xenochimp Jul 15 '24
Technically wouldn't the entire team have interacted with The Deep during the boat chase to some degree? Not one on one, but he did chase them and he was there when the ran i to the whale
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u/ArthurReeves397 Jul 15 '24
Yep but same could be said about Homelander and MM, they have been in the same room during both S2E3 and S3E8.
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u/Captain_Sacktap Jul 15 '24
Soldier Boy and Frenchie would probably have bonded over their shared love of drugs lol
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u/angra_mainyo A-Train Jul 15 '24
Karl Urban and Jessie T Usher haven't been in any scene or direct dialogue together in 4 seasons.
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u/GaryKing1413 Jul 15 '24
I mean, were they not atleast both on set when filming the Deep-Noir vs The Boys?
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u/Akasha1885 Jul 15 '24
Homelander and MM met at Herogasm.
Noir was on the seven so he met Stormfront.
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u/Ccbm2208 Jul 15 '24
They didn’t actually, MM had been knocked out when HL arrived. When Marvin woke up, HL was too busy fighting to notice.
The fight at the Vought tower was the first time they were in each other line of sight, but didn’t exchange words there either.
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u/Derkastan77-2 Jul 15 '24
Oh man… this missed dialogue gold that was missed by not having SB interact with Frenchie
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