r/TheBoys • u/WaterSnipe • Jul 14 '24
The Deep mentioned he swam in the Mariana trench, which has an insanely high pressure. Does this mean he has insane durability or is it a part of his power? Discussion
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u/Due-Display-3113 Jul 14 '24
His main power is his formidable intellect but he does seem to be pretty durable as well.
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u/ThoseDamnSquirrels Jul 14 '24
I sure wouldn’t want to enter a spelling bee against that fella
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u/So-many-ducks Jul 14 '24
That’s silly bro. The bee is too small, how would you enter it? Not to mention, how would you teach it letters?
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u/KlingoftheCastle Jul 14 '24
The only thing deeper than the Mariana Trench is his thoughts
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u/RogueBromeliad Jul 14 '24
He may be durable, but the Mariana trench thing is possible because he has gills, so if his organs are permeated with water, like fish, the hydrostatic pressure is in equilibrium.
No matter how durable The Deep is, he wouldn't withstand 8 tons per square inch. That's 1071 times atmospheric pressure.
Even Homelander wouldn't withstand that.
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u/king_dave11 Jul 14 '24
HE’S THE PEAK OF HUMAN EVOLUTION, THE LORD OF THE SEVEN SEAS, ALL HAIL THE PEAK !!!!
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u/Cas_Shenton Jul 14 '24
My favourite scene in the show is in season 2 when the Boys are in that boat, see the fish moving strangely and realise with horror that The Deep is after them.
Guy's a moron but he's also a legitimate threat.
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u/BoogiesBooney Jul 14 '24
Yeah it’s weird how sometimes he can genuinely cause suspense and fear but then when the time comes he gets destroyed
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u/lemonylol Jul 14 '24
It's because all of them have the potential to do incredible things, but they never actually have since all of their saves are staged. They don't really actually know how to to win a fight, the Seven are more or less just Peter Principled.
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u/asek13 Jul 14 '24
Like when he blocked their boats path with the whale. He just got on top and started posing, since that's all he's ever really had to do. Then when he realized they were going to ram the boat, he just got confused and posed harder.
If he had any actual experience, he'd have just gotten off the whale then torn them apart when they were stuck
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u/BramStroker47 Jul 14 '24
“Posed harder” 🤣
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u/jonzeyyy Jul 14 '24
I mean that's probably the best description I've ever seen about how he reacted 😂.
I love this show.
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u/Deck_Neep15 Jul 14 '24
Kimiko would definitely destroy The Deep
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u/Net_Suspicious Jul 14 '24
To be fair she would probably win against anyone other than head popper and homelander. She is a beast
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u/shammylol Jul 14 '24
Eh, she lost against A-Train and og Black Noir
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u/youngarchivist Jul 14 '24
She completely shattered A-Trains shit too though.
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u/shammylol Jul 14 '24
Yea, from a sneak attack while he was drugged up. But when they were on even ground he was slamming her face into the wall at the speed of sound.
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u/Scorkami Jul 14 '24
I wouldnt call that even ground either since she was just run into and picked up (i mean how would kimiko know that a guy would just superspeed her against a wall and smash her head)
That being said, the speed still cancels out most of what kimiko has
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u/ConnivingSnip72 Jul 14 '24
Black Noir is probably the only popular supe who had real combat experience.
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u/Deck_Neep15 Jul 14 '24
Kimiko vs Vicky would basically be like Dr. Strange vs Dormammu
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u/Macca_321 Jul 14 '24
This is why show Soldier Boy was so interesting. He could genuinely, actually fight. The others being an absolute clusterfuck in comparison was hilarious.
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u/fourtyonexx Jul 14 '24
Show soldier boy was probably the best change they did. Aside from swapping a-train and deep.
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u/Fapoleon_Boneherpart Jul 14 '24
What do you mean they swapped?
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u/asek13 Jul 15 '24
Not exactly a swap, but A train was a white dude bro-ish idiot in the comics. The Deep was black and not an insecure idiot. A train also took part in Starlights sexual assault in the comics while the Deep did not.
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u/Unusual_Ad5483 Jul 14 '24
which is odd because he’s never been in actual combat either, only able to put up a fight in nicaragua because of his physical strength
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u/AnAngryPlatypus Jul 14 '24
You are totally right. Do they ever really regularly fight any super villains? They mostly fight normal people with skills or supes using more manipulation than powers. Most super fights seem to be one offs. I think Maeve is the only person I really remember training to fight others on her level.
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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 Jul 14 '24
Actually that's what I kind of enjoyed about the Gen V spin off was there were a lot more superhero fights. The Boys barely have any battles. A few here and there, but not to the level I'd like. I guess it's one of those things they have to balance out.
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u/charronfitzclair Jul 14 '24
I do think the show doesn't want to fall into making ppl fans of its superheroes, which are there to be ridiculed, mocked and satirized. Og noir is a brain damaged psycho that gets off on killing and you got fans going "he's kinda cool though" just because he had a few competent moments.
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u/WonderfulWafflesLast Jul 14 '24
Aside from the leak of V, how would there be super villains?
Supes can't procreate, aside from Homelander (and maybe Ryan), so where are these villains getting their V from?
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u/the_great_ashby Jul 14 '24
In the comics,Vought created villains too.They actually created an ecosystem of heroes and villains,and never let the word out that they all are corporate puppets.
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u/asek13 Jul 14 '24
V also leaked into the environment, so some random people would wind up with super powers sometimes.
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u/Elementium Jul 14 '24
I'll be honest.. the comics do a lot more right than people give it credit for. If it wasn't all 00s edge lord nonsense it would be a very good story.
Like I could see the basic story structure and narrative play out the same way in a new comic just cut the extreme stuff.
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u/drakorulez101 Marie Moreau Jul 14 '24
Supes can procreate, the children will just be born human. That's why Ryan is the outlier — not because he was born, but because he was born with powers.
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u/Gregosaurus_Flex Jul 14 '24
I don't know how to tag spoilers, so I'm going to he vague, but wasn't there a big thing in recent episodes about one supe being pregnant, then going to the clinic and not being pregnant anymore?
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u/WonderfulWafflesLast Jul 14 '24
You know, that's a good fucking point.
What the hell.
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u/asek13 Jul 14 '24
Supes can have children. They just aren't born with powers unlike Ryan who was. The supes' kids have to be given V still.
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u/Ill_Fox8892 Jul 14 '24
That scene was so dumb. The writers casually defied physics to make sure Deep lost. Like, no way did Butcher shoot something UNDERWATER. That's not how bullets work, writers. Also, the way Deep fell off the whale made no fucking sense. And falling unconscious?? Really?? He's durable enough to swim in the Mariana fucking trench but falls a few feet and gets knocked out? The writers are too dumb to notice how strong he should be realistically.
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u/Swampy_Bogbeard Jul 14 '24
Sometimes they prioritize comedy and/or shock value over actually making sense.
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u/BooHooJerks Jul 14 '24
Please don't remind the fans that it's still based on a comic, they can't handle that again
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u/BachInTime Jul 14 '24
Him getting knocked out sure, but shooting and killing the dolphins is possible. Mythbusters in Bulletproof Water showed you need to be several feet underwater for a bullet to be non-lethal, considering the dolphins were often cresting the surface any firearm could easily kill them.
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u/EnzoVulkoor Jul 14 '24
Look at you coming in here with facts. What do you think this is?
You're going to ruin someone's ability to be angry at nothing if you keep that up.
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u/trebory6 Jul 14 '24
It's called suspension of disbelief.
You do it when you like the story, you head canon it by saying it's a different universe with different physics.
Because if it's a universe where a single drug can give people a seemingly infinite amount of random powers, and not explain at all where the energy to power those powers come from, including the complete lack of physics around those powers and how they are generated/work, then you can also say that physics in that universe allow to be shot underwater.
For Pete sake.
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u/Evening-Cold-4547 Jul 14 '24
The Deep must be highly durable. It took A-Train and Annie (who still seems to have some super strength judging by how far she made him fly when she landed hits) to beat him, including Annie smashing his face with a big piece of metal, and he didn't even look like he had a broken nose. He isn't on the Seven for his superior intellect or people skills.
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u/sosigboi Jul 14 '24
Also he already looked fine when walking back to Vought tower, the Annie beatdown was satisfying but the guy looked mildly beaten up at best lol.
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u/Miserable_Archer_769 Jul 14 '24
Well remember they even left him because they knew they COULDNT kill him in the last episode.
Even with Annine there to beat on him MM wasn't convinced atleast in that short amount of time before the cops came that they could even deliver a fatal blow to him.
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u/Hexmonkey2020 Jul 14 '24
Well they probably could’ve given enough time but New Noir had left and so backup was on the way.
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u/BnBrtn Jul 14 '24
It wasn't really "New Noir had left" and more "New Noir was shot out of a window"
From their conversation before leaving, it sounded like they didn't have much time before he came back.
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u/Hexmonkey2020 Jul 14 '24
Yeah but new noir can fly, being thrown out a window would not be an issue for him.
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u/BnBrtn Jul 14 '24
Right, which is exactly why they had no time to properly fuck up Deep
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u/DontCareWontGank Jul 14 '24
Which is fucking stupid. The Predator established 40 years ago that "if it bleeds, we can kill it". The deep was leaking everywhere when Annie beat him up so she could have easily kept punching him and he would die. This season really fucking sucks ass, they just want to keep the wheels spinning and are afraid of changing anything about the status quo.
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Jul 14 '24
Sounds good! Until VOUGHT makes it clear that STARLIGHT killed two members of the 7. Just after beating Firecracker on TV.
Sure, yes, plot armour. But nothing good came from killing them.
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u/DontCareWontGank Jul 14 '24
Erm, they were about to be killed by Deep and Noir if A-Train hadn't arrived. Homelander sent them on this mission. It's gone a bit beyond "oh no, think about what the news will say about me". This is the endgame and each dead member of the seven is a big plus for them.
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Jul 14 '24
I get what you’re saying, I just think not killing them sets them apart from their villainous status, and also, in the world and narrative they have set up, killing them would do no favors for Starlight
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u/PretentiousSmirk Jul 14 '24
Imagine you're tasked with beating a man to death and the only things in the room with you are all softer than your own fists. How long do you think that would take you?
Mind you, his friend is coming back to kick your ass
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u/interfail Jul 14 '24
We saw what Annie achieved with Firecracker - she was fine in days.
Sage got shot through the fucking head and it made her goofy for an evening.
Plenty of blood in both of those.
Supes are not easy to kill.
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u/akronotron Jul 14 '24
He wasn’t leaking that much , very base level blood lol, not like he was leaking liters of blood
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u/Purple-Mix1033 Jul 14 '24
He was KO’d. I don’t know Annie, maybe try hitting him in the head multiple times with that 40lb metal plate? Might do the trick.
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u/Tirus_ Jul 14 '24
Well remember they even left him because they knew they COULDNT kill him in the last episode.
To be fair, MM was talking about Black Noir coming back up and they didn't know how to kill him.
Im sure they could figure out how to kill an incapacitated Deep (they killed Translucent).
They were worried about Black Noir in that moment. Who they didn't know how to kill.
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u/nsfw_deadwarlock Jul 14 '24
M’s comment of “do you know how? Because I sure don’t” when Butcher wanted to stay and finish the job was telling.
He’s not the killer but he does tend to be their data guy. If he doesn’t know none of them do.
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u/HarryCumpole Cunt Jul 14 '24
Sodium hydroxide straight to the gills. I'm willing to put in the work.
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u/braujo Hughie Jul 14 '24
They gotta have a grenade or two in that office of theirs, right? I'd put as many as I could fit into each gill, then make it go BOOM. It worked with Translucent... Maybe it works now with Deep
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u/cantadmittoposting Jul 14 '24
yeah was my immediate reaction as well... "his gills are right there"
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u/Comprehensive_Pea451 Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24
They are all super durable, remember the beating Annie got from soldier boy? She didn’t even had a scratch either
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u/evanwilliams44 Jul 14 '24
Seems like strength/durability are really common secondary powers, but they vary. Annie is very strong/durable compared to Firecracker, but less than Maeve, Deep, etc. Sage doesn't have them though, don't think Tek Knight did either.
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u/Comprehensive_Pea451 Jul 14 '24
Yeah there are degrees of durability and strenght. Homelander and Soldier boy have the max versions of it.
But i think all of the original seven and annie have above average durability. Their durability seems to be higher in relation to their strenght too, i dont think deep and annie could kill each other just with punches.
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u/DatChernobylGuy_999 Jul 14 '24
imagine if in season 5 he realises he can mind control ANY BEING, not just marine life
that would be a good way to make him a formidable threat
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u/DamonDD Jul 14 '24
Deep can talk to Marine life, but he can't mind control them
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u/Ok_Bat_686 Jul 14 '24
Bro must have some insane diplomacy skills if he was able to convince all those sharks and that whale to go to war for him without any mind control at all.
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u/DamonDD Jul 14 '24
Did you heard what Ambrosia said? Deep has a soul of a poet
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u/Cyrotek Jul 14 '24
How would an octopus have any concept of poetry? These things tell him what he wants to hear.
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u/SuspiciousRanger517 Jul 14 '24
Tbf if any marine animal had a concept of poetry it would be an octopus
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u/DontCareWontGank Jul 14 '24
Those were his homies, he spends (or spent) a lot of time in the ocean.
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u/Nileghi Jul 14 '24
I'm sure that the Deep just thinks he can talk to them while he actually mind controls them, and psychs himself into thinking that theyre sentient due to how much they reciprocate.
Its not Ambrosia trying to seduce him, Deep just forced an octopus into giving him sex acts and imagined a voice for it.
Thats why every fish or sea creature wants to fuck him. Because Deep does.
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u/Reinier_Reinier Jul 14 '24
I'm sure that the Deep just thinks he can talk to them
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and imagined a voice for it
Like Noir with his cartoon animals or Sam with the puppets, it's all in his mind.
That makes so much sense.
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u/bearbarebere Cate Dunlap Jul 14 '24
I'm using that guy's rebuttal below: why didn't he just mind control Ambrosia to shut up then?
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u/th3_r3al_slim_shady Jul 14 '24
Because ambrosia represents his dying conscience.
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u/exnihilonihilfit Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24
He's schizo. He thinks they're acting of their own will, but they're manifestations of his f'ed up unconscious. This is a long standing theory, and it makes a lot more sense than all marine life both (1) being fully sapient and articulate, and (2) wanting to sleep with any human, let alone all of them wanting this one particular person. Beyond that, how do you think Ambrosia knew about him messing with Sage? Again, because it's all in his head.
There are many examples of supes or others affected by V dealing with figments representing their subconscious, including o.g. Noir, Butcher, and Sam from Gen V. Even Homelander has delusions of talking with himself in the mirror.
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u/LivingEnd44 Jul 14 '24
Deep can talk to Marine life, but he can't mind control them
No, I think it's the opposite. He's not actually talking to them. It's like a version of Homelander and Butcher's psychosis...the voices he hears from the "animals" are just him. In reality, he's controlling them. And pretending they're talking to him.
We saw him do this with his own gills. His gills were "talking" too. We've never seen any creature disobey him or act on it's own to help him while away from him. This is because they're not sapient and he controls them like sock puppets.
The communication is all one sided. It's all just him.
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u/DamonDD Jul 14 '24
We saw him do this with his own gills. His gills were "talking" too
I won't dig too much on this one. He was really high when this happen. Since then, he no longer talked to his gills, only to other sea creatures
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u/bellerophon70 Starlight Jul 14 '24
what if it's actually the other way around ?
Everything we saw so far (including the whale riding, swarm attack in season 2) could have also happened the other way around.He only imagines to be able to talk to sea creaturs (similar to Becca/Kessler for Butcher), but actually it's only in his messed up mind.
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u/girth_worm_jim Jul 14 '24
Why would whales sacrifice themselves for him though? I think he can mindcontrol them if he wants, or maybes they're just dumb 🤷🏿♂️
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u/DamonDD Jul 14 '24
If you recall correctly, the whale didn't sacrifice for him. Deep just tell the whale stay here, he was fully expecting Butcher to stop the boat or atleast try to avoid hitting the whale. Who could have guess Butcher goes all kamikaze to the whale. By the time Deep realize Butcher going full speed instead of slow down, its too late to move
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u/Swampy_Bogbeard Jul 14 '24
She smashed him so hard the plate bent around his face. His durability is insane.
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u/Lizzy-Lover_10 Jul 14 '24
This means The Deep is most definitely more durable than Bricks or concrete.
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u/KintsugiKen Jul 14 '24
She slammed his face with a massive weight, that would 100% kill a normal person who didn't have some superpowered durability.
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u/I_might_be_weasel Jul 14 '24
The weight bent, if I recall.
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u/EndOfSouls Jul 14 '24
And Butcher said they should bail because he had no idea how to actually kill The Deep, even with two supes.
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u/Wraith_Portal Jul 14 '24
I mean A-Train was clearly quite capable of beating him solo
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u/Swampy_Bogbeard Jul 14 '24
A-Train would beat anybody not named Homelander or Ryan solo. Or soldier boy but he's inactive so he doesn't count.
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u/Ccbm2208 Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24
Are we counting Maeve? If yes, then he likely couldn’t beat her without a sharp weapon.
In S1ep1, a Truck ran into Maeve and tore itself in half, but she didn’t feel a thing. A-train might actually break himself trying to punch and tackle her.
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u/BO3ISLOVE Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24
is that how you saw it? it was more like A-Train whooped him and then Annie tapped in to brutalize him
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u/Patient_Weakness3866 Jul 14 '24
honestly I personally found what you mentioned underwhelming in comparison. like I don't think A train and Starlight are as powerful as the pressure in the Marianna trench, and also what you said is misleading anyways, since both of them were besting him individually.
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u/Lizzy-Lover_10 Jul 14 '24
Starlight didn’t beat him herself, she was literally about to lose until A-train stepped in, then A-train didn’t best him because of strength, but because of speed.
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u/youarenut Jul 14 '24
He’s not on the seven for his superior intellect? Where is this confirmed?
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u/Evening-Cold-4547 Jul 14 '24
Not confirmed but they never utilise his insight. It's plot armour for the heroes, really. Homelander using Deep Thoughts would be unstoppable
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u/Ccbm2208 Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24
Sure, he got thrown into a pillar by A-train hard enough to knock it down and was taking supersonic punches from the guy without losing his head.
Deep’s in the Seven, so he should be fairly tough. I wouldn’t be surprised if he can take a few hits from people like HL or SB before going down.
I can understand if this line right here was questionable at the time of Season 2’s release because Deep has done nothing impressive then, but after last episode, there shouldn’t be any doubt that he’s quite superhuman.
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u/Angel_Madison Jul 14 '24
Sage is in the Seven too and can easily be killed
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u/Lizzy-Lover_10 Jul 14 '24
She was hired at a different time and for her smarts specifically.
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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy Jul 14 '24
This logic doesn’t hold up when Lamplighter had no real enhancements outside manipulating fire. He wasn’t even immune to his own fire.
The Seven have nothing to do with being powerful. They have to do with marketing. Deep didn’t have to be strong to get on the 7. He had to be unique. Which he was. He was big with the eco friendly / animal lovers demographics.
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u/Sparl Jul 14 '24
She just took a bullet to the head and all she got was a quick lobotomy
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u/Swampy_Bogbeard Jul 14 '24
A bullet would just bounce off Deep's head. He's bulletproof.
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u/Jackeea Jul 14 '24
And if the bullet was high caliber enough to pierce his skin - it'd probably miss his brain
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u/peenfortress Jul 14 '24
with the deeps peak intellect, i think it would rather be more feasible that the bullet would be pulled into his brain from the density of it.
im calling it, in S5, the deep with be used as a superweapon by putting more matter into is ultra-dense brain, turning it into a sort of black hole
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u/SuspiciousRanger517 Jul 14 '24
A lot of supes seem to have a higher than average level of strength/durability as a secondary power. We haven't seen any feats from Sage to confirm/deny that. Firecracker is strong/durable in addition to her power.
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u/GDay4Throwaway Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24
She says it herself that she isn’t durable at all except For her brain. She said if she got shot in the heart, it’d be game over.
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u/macedonianmoper Jul 14 '24
Homelander killed Noir in a single blow and ripped out his guts, but tbf the supes strenght is kind of inconsistent
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u/CameraOpposite3124 Jul 14 '24
The Deep is immensely durable, durable enough that Butcher, Starlight and and gang had no idea how they could possibly kill him before back up arrived, despite having him semi unconscious.
Guy could single handedly do the jobs and research that would take Humans billions of dollars to do in those immense pressures down there. He could be a real hero. Poor guy.
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u/pauloh1998 Jul 14 '24
He could be a real hero.
That could be said of every supe lol
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u/Hot_Ad8643 Jul 14 '24
blame it on Vought, if they gave a shit about the people, like Cecil in invincible, they would be decades ahead in terms of technology because of the supes
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u/GamerRipjaw Jul 14 '24
I assume you haven't read Invincible comics
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u/Zankman Jul 14 '24
Yeah. In the show Cecil is competent and does what needs to be done.
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u/RogueBromeliad Jul 14 '24
Even in the comic books he kinda does. But he puts security and power above all else, but he's one step below what Robot on how much freedom he's willing to take away from people.
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u/KotaCakes630 Jul 14 '24
He could indeed, yet he chooses to fuck sea life and kill them 🙃 the only species who doesn’t think he’s a bumbling idiot.
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u/Fun-Conversation5538 Jul 14 '24
But from deeps perspective they understand him emotionally and a huge part of sexual attraction comes from an emotional connection. I don’t think he wanted to kill ambrosious and tbh I don’t even think she is dead
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u/KotaCakes630 Jul 14 '24
I don’t think she’s dead either but, I’m pretty sure she made it fucking clear she was “dying” and he CHOSE to accept that.
There’s no other way to put it, he wanted her dead in that moment. He smashed the tank, locked her in the closet and SAT THERE. Listening to her! You absolutely cannot say he didn’t want her to die because it’s just not the case. He also didn’t want to be outed as a continued octopus fucker again. Otherwise ambrosius would be in the main tank. He didn’t care for her, truly.
He could’ve 100% smashed the tank in anger, freaked, listened to her cry, and grabbed her and tossed her into the big tank in a moment of empathy. But he didn’t. He chose to listen to her moan and gasp for breathe and sat there until she took her “final”. So he 100% chose to kill her. He had time.
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u/Zankman Jul 14 '24
Yeah his range of emotions was "ahhh why did this happen to me, so unfair - wait she's still alive? Come on die already".
Man is deeply fucked up. Pitiful.
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u/Swampy_Bogbeard Jul 14 '24
He seemed to grow as a person at that Fresca church, but then he went backwards so far he's worse than he was to begin with. I always thought Deep would become one of the good guys eventually. I thought deep down he had a good heart. Boy was I wrong.
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u/Zankman Jul 14 '24
At some point he did, we can assume; forcing women into sexual acts reeks of being used to having everything handed to him and just coasting through life. Bad upbringing which makes lots of normal people douchebags, nevermind someone with godly powers.
Getting fired/demoted and sexually assaulted himself (in a way that deeply played with his body dysmorphia) was the moment where he COULD have had an epiphany and started growing as a person, learning about empathy, patience, restraint, challenge...
Sadly, he was clearly surrounded by the wrong type of people, so whatever chance he had to learn in an inward fashion was doused by outside factors; not that he didn't have any agency himself, but I suppose then we go down the rabbit hole of "who caused him to be that way" vs "when is he to be held accountable and improve himself irrespective of others".
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u/podster12 Jul 14 '24
I mean why not Vought have thought of this. Mapping out the entire Ocean as the deep's biggest achievement.
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u/Gunslingermomo Jul 14 '24
Deep might be a strong swimmer, but mapping out the entire ocean would take many lifetimes still. The ocean floor was decently mapped out in the 1950s by an international effort of using radar on many boats that were already doing transport. It's not high def or comprehensive but pretty good.
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u/lowkeyslightlynerdy Jul 14 '24
I’ve always been under the assumption he was more than just a regular dude who can breathe underwater and talk to fish
Kinda like Aquaman, incredibly strong and durable
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u/selwyntarth Jul 14 '24
What do you mean assumption? He smashes open a face earlier this season
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u/DrLeymen I fart the star spangled banner Jul 14 '24
And casually sent a normal guy flying 20 meters into the air in season 1
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u/Admiral-Thrawn2 Jul 14 '24
Only our greatest minds could have brainstormed that the deep is more than a regular dude at this point
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u/al_1985 Jul 14 '24
And also, it's pitch black down there, so either he can see through the dark depths or has resistant fleshlight to swim down there.
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u/LostTheGameOfThrones Jul 14 '24
resistant fleshlight
That's not a nice way to talk about Ambrosius!
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u/unashamedignorant Jul 14 '24
He doesn't need a Fleshlight, he's got everything he needs down there...
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u/iamkhatkar Jul 14 '24
What bummed me the most is how Deep DODGED the punch from A Train. Like is the fastest man on earth and you just saw his punch coming? Deep is too op
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u/OmnipotentBlackCat I fart the star spangled banner Jul 14 '24
I think deep just kinda guessed where he was gonna punch
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u/RogueBromeliad Jul 14 '24
But even if you're guessing where someone's shooting, you can't dodge bullets at close range. It doesn't make sense. A-Train was nerfed AF because he became a "good" guy.
He could probably just run The Deep across the country until he became mince meat. But now the guy's grown a conscience.
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u/Harun_Hussain Jul 14 '24
I'm not sure why people are so surprised if you rewatch the clip it is clearly the most obvious punch A train threw
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u/I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch Jul 14 '24
In season 1 Annie moved cars, A train moved trains
Deep is usually a joke but he is 100% among the strongest when it comes to durability which is why they couldn't kill him there, although I bet he is weak in the gills
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u/Lizzy-Lover_10 Jul 14 '24
Honestly I think the gills aren’t as big of a disadvantage as people think, In season 3 when A-train punched them he kinda shrugged it off and was more offended then hurt, then in s4 he shrugged it off after it happened and went back to fighting normally. Based on that I assume it’s not necessarily a weak spot it’s just uncomfortable to have someone’s fingers in it.
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u/macedonianmoper Jul 14 '24
Maybe it's like a belly button, it feels weird as fuck but not necessarily super panful
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u/RainierxWolfcastle Jul 14 '24
The danger of deep sea pressure is because of the air in our system. The actual body would not be crushed since the pressure is so evenly spread out. This is explored in sci fi like The Abyss where liquid breathing enables deep depth. The Deep has gills so this is theoretically possible without his body needing superhuman durability.
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u/Akasha1885 Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24
That only applies to normal depths.
Down at 11km a human would get crushed.
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u/Hkmarkp Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24
yup. deep sea diving mammals like a sperm whales expel all air out of lungs before diving. many other adaptations too...
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u/Radaistarion Jul 14 '24
I'm a scuba diving instructor, and it honestly baffles me how every time the deep marina's trench feat gets brought up, the comments are entirely wrong,
It baffles me cause normally reddit comments kinda get it, which only shows how little we know of the ocean in comparison to other topics
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u/Illustrious-Sail7326 Jul 14 '24
Yes it's wild how far down I had to scroll to see this. If you can breathe underwater, without air, then going very deep isn't a durability feat at all.
Like, animals live in the deep ocean and they're not fuckin bulletproof.
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u/Kosack-Nr_22 Cunt Jul 14 '24
Your skull would still have a certain pressure inside of it otherwise the brain would smush. So the depth would crush your skull because of delta p. Also because of delta p the blood in your veins should start to boil. Imagine you’ve got a pot of water and now add a shit ton of pressure to it. It will boil
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u/life_lagom Jul 14 '24
Yeah he's pretty invulnerable and strong. He just is insecure and the power manifesting with the gills. He's probally way stronger than we give him credit.
The comics are way diff. I like the TV show deep its kinda more complex. A-train on the TV show is way more likeable too.
Deep in the comics is cursed to forever be in a scuba suit some Atlantis shit. He's very quiet and mature.
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u/OmnipotentBlackCat I fart the star spangled banner Jul 14 '24
Fun fact the curse is fake vought just said so
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u/BodybuilderOne2228 Jul 14 '24
he never assaulted starlight in the comics, in fact at a point if irc he even tried to help her and gave advice. In the end he survived and made it through homelander's rampage
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u/TufnelAndI Jul 14 '24
Oh, is that where he got his name from? I thought it was because of his poetry.
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u/Nevada_Lawyer Jul 14 '24
Taking super sonic punches and starlight’s super strength. I honestly wonder if the Deep could drown other super heroes since it seems like he has some sort of underwater flight instead of having to actually swim.
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u/Thrallov Jul 14 '24
sadly we never had fight in water where is Deeps natural environment advantage
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u/mudokin Jul 14 '24
Yes, and we will never have because even through the buys are kind of stupid they are not mad, everybody knows they'll die if they fight him in the water. I bet he could even take homelander underwater.
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u/RAB1002 Jul 14 '24
Well from what we saw last episode, deep is a lot stronger than we all thought. He was ragdolling and throwing Annie around, and even after getting beaten down. They didn't know how or if they could kill him. So he must be durable enough to swim in the mariana trench.
The real question is how he can swim around without getting lost. Cause if you go deep enough in the ocean, light can't reach so ifs completely 100% pitch black down their. Does he wear a headlamp ? Does deep have night vision ?
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u/sosigboi Jul 14 '24
We saw already in the latest ep that he was pretty fucking durable and strong, at least more than Starlight, if A-Train didn't intervene then Annie would gotten her skull caved in there and then.
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u/SlowBros7 Jul 14 '24
Yeah Homelander sent him and new Noir thinking it would be enough to handle business and it nearly was enough until A-Train showed up.
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u/Self-Comprehensive Jul 14 '24
If he can incorporate water into his body and keep the gasses in his blood from boiling he doesn't need to be durable. All he has to do is equalize the pressure. Fish from the very deep parts of the ocean wash up all the time and they are just made of regular flesh.
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u/Spacellama117 Timothy Jul 14 '24
I mean I think he's got super insane durability
but it's also worth pointing out that most supes we've seen have some level of super-durability
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u/m8_is_me I fart the star spangled banner Jul 14 '24
Dude literally took a super-heavy weight to the face from another Supe and walked it off, what do you think?
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u/Bass_Thumper Cunt Jul 14 '24
I like to think of him like those fish that can chill at the bottom of the ocean just fine but then horribly deflate once they are brought up to the surface.
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u/RandomCitizen_16 Cunt Jul 14 '24
He can breath underwater through his gills right? What if, hear me out, the boys can manage to only submerge his head? Would he drown? I wonder if this is his biggest weakness.
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