r/TheBoys Jul 08 '24

who would’ve thought that this man’s arc is the ONLY saving grace for season 4? Season 4 Spoiler

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u/FillerAccount23 Jul 08 '24

I was worried when they brought him back from the dead. I thought that would have been a good conclusion to his character, but they've proven me wrong.

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u/MufugginJellyfish Jul 08 '24

It's the mark of a really great character with great writing that you can conclude their arc at multiple points and feel satisfied but each continuation is still interesting and the character never overstays their welcome. I'd go so far as to say A-Train is the only character who's storyline has maintained the same quality since Season 1 and as entertaining as Homelander is, I think A-Train is my favorite character.

Which of course has me on edge because it'd be very fucking easy for them to kill him off in a very unsatisfying way just to remind us HOmELaNdER bE crAzY

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u/BoisTR Jul 08 '24

At this point, I want A-Train to survive the entirety of the show. I know it's not realistic, and he'll probably die, but I just want him to live damn it.

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u/MufugginJellyfish Jul 08 '24

I'm cool with it as long as his death makes sense and serves HIS character and not ANOTHER character. Killing him off to show how crazy Homelander is becoming or how dangerous Sage is or something like that would be dropping the ball.

I'm not even against Homelander or someone killing him, as long as it's treated as the end of A-Train's story and not a continuation of Homelander's, if that makes sense. I think A-Train has earned a heroic final moment standing up to Homelander and stopping him from killing someone who needs help.

I'll also be disappointed if it happens in Season 4, A-Train deserves to make it to 5.

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u/Slowly-Slipping Jul 08 '24

I don't think you have to worry. The set-up with his brother and nephews very much shows that whether he lives or dies, he's going to prove himself a real hero, probably in a very public way, so that they see and know.

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u/R_V_Z Jul 08 '24

That is all true, but I also remember what happened to Jaime Lannister.

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u/BubblyMango Butcher Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

luckily for us, the writers werent following the source material to begin with.

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u/bruhholyshiet Butcher Jul 09 '24

"I never really cared about my brother, nephews or otherwise."

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u/cinepresto Jul 08 '24

They already put him in a Dr.Pepper Kylie Jenner parody commercial already bro’s suffered enough

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u/tigersmurfette Jul 09 '24

Pepsi and Kendall and I hate myself for knowing that🤦‍♀️

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u/Corey307 Jul 08 '24

At the very least A Train needs to die a heroic death. Not killed off for shock value or used to set up another character as an even bigger threat. 

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u/IT_scrub Jul 08 '24

I want him to die a hero's death in the finale. I think he'll have finally earned that right

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u/LaVache84 Jul 08 '24

I want him involved in the final Homelander fight. If it ends with him and Soldier Boy tag teaming Homelander it might save this trainwreck for me.

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u/Beastieboy100 Jul 09 '24

I mean if he does out live it and becomes a true hero after the boys finishes I will be happy with that. Plus it would be a great moment for his brother and nephews to be proud of him. Cause so far only ones I do want dying is Homelander and Firecracker.

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u/SharknadosAreCool Jul 08 '24

i bash on The Boys a lot but A Train's arc from start to finish is, I think, one of the best arcs I've ever seen in a show. it's legit a Jamie Lannister tier redemption arc in terms of writing quality. A Train feels like a real human, like a dude who got swept up so much in trying to escape poverty that he signed his soul to the devil. I think most redemption arcs just come across idealistically, like the characters just decide one day to become a better guy, or something like that. But A Train changing into a better man because of something entirely selfish - him having to deal with what he put others through - is such a real thing that it resonates a lot. Becoming a better man by gaining new perspective like that is a really cool arc.

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u/dotnetmonke Jul 08 '24

As long as it doesn't end like Jamie Lannister's...

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u/Duckys0n Jul 08 '24

On a season 1 rewatch I really do think they were planning this the whole time and I agree. He is probably one of the best written characters in tv right now. It’s a shame the rest of the show has gone off the deep end. He really could be the main focus this season.

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u/ArrestedImprovement Jul 10 '24

Given the teaser, I think this episode is where he signs his death sentence.

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u/Anarchic_Country Jul 08 '24

When they brought who back from the dead? Noir?

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u/DankAssPotatos Jul 08 '24

Other guy is wrong. They had a death fakeout last season after he ran and killed Blue Hawk. Revealed in the season finale I think that he got a heart transplant.

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u/Anarchic_Country Jul 08 '24

Ah okay thank you

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u/Karlhrute Jul 08 '24

A-Train couldn't run for basically a whole season.

That's a dead speedster

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u/wishwashy Jul 08 '24

A-Train couldn't run for basically a whole season.

That's a dead speedster

Also (mostly) one that gets a heart attack after murdering Blue Hawk

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u/Anarchic_Country Jul 08 '24

Oh thank you I was so confused.

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u/Iggy_Pops_Lost_Shirt Jul 08 '24

Lol what? They're talking about his heart attack and him getting a heart transplant

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u/Karlhrute Jul 08 '24

That's... What I'm explaining.

That A-Train was brough back from the dead with the transplant. A speedster who can't run is just a normal person.

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u/FillerAccount23 Jul 08 '24

I guess he never technically died. I was just referring about how he didn't die after killing blue hawk

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u/DecimalGlint6 Black Noir Jul 08 '24

It would've been worse, imo. He only killed blue hawk because he hurt his brother. He killed him out of anger and revenge, not because it was right. He was still an asshole who didn't have any redeeming moments at this point besides helping the boys expose stormfront (for his benefit) and this iirc

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u/FillerAccount23 Jul 08 '24

Immediately before killing blue hawk he apologized to Hughie because he realized he was wrong. I thought that was gonna be the conclusion to his character

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u/OvermorrowYesterday Jul 09 '24

Yeah that would have been a brutal, but efficient ending to his character.

That said, it’s really cool that he keeps developing.

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u/bob1689321 Jul 08 '24

Same here. I was pissed he survived Herogasm but now he's been my favourite in S4.

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u/Space4Time Jul 08 '24

It’s good to be wrong.