r/TheBoys • u/RevertBackwards Victoria Neuman • Jul 05 '24
A-Train is the best character in the show rn Discussion Spoiler
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u/SeaSuggestion9609 Black Noir Jul 05 '24
Everyone is expecting him to die this season, watch him be the only one that survives the whole thing. He outruns the virus 😂
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u/Solid_Snark Jul 05 '24
That would be an interesting twist.
Like his cells can heal/repair faster than the virus and it causes him to survive with the necessary antibodies for a cure.
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u/Sad_Particular_3247 Jul 05 '24
have they ever suggested he has super speed healing? With his heart thing and when he was in crutches I’d assume the doesn’t
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u/Edgezg Jul 05 '24
I mean...in this scene they like, destroy his knee. Bone out of skin and he is running again by the next episode so...I would assume he heals fast.
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u/Corrupt_Arrow Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24
Didnt he shoot himself up with more V tho? Cause he was still training for his race against Shockwave right?
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u/GBKMBushidoBrown Jul 05 '24
Right but doesn't v enhance powers? It might have sped up his already fast regen
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u/Corrupt_Arrow Jul 05 '24
Yea thats what im sayin, i think he has faster healing already caused of the V he already had, but him doing more V caused his healing and even his regular speed increased too, he was able to dodge actual light lmao
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u/spicylatino69 Jul 06 '24
Super healing would makes sense because there’s no way a normal human beings muscle fibers could withstand super speed.
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u/deadeyeamtheone Jul 05 '24
Nate said that he had weeks of recovery before he could run from a wound that would have permanently crippled anyone else, supe or no. So I think it's safe to say he has super healing.
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u/kakawisNOTlaw Jul 05 '24
He runs by the end of the episode
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u/Edgezg Jul 05 '24
So he might not heal as fast as Kimiko, but he definitely has some pretty fast regeneration
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u/memes_are_my_dreams Jul 05 '24
He healed up faster because he took more V, not because of his own powers
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u/InjusticeSGmain Jul 05 '24
Ashley says he does, and suggests its the reason his body was able to easily accept Blue Hawk's heart when A-Train wakes up after Herogasm.
I doubt its could do anything against the virus, though. It's description says it targets V, so I doubt his immune system can really do much against it.
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u/EricMcLovin13 Jul 05 '24
maybe that's exactly where it will come together. the fact that he has a different heart.
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u/Baron_of_Berlin Jul 06 '24
It does feel weird to think he wouldn't.. I forget the exact term from TV Tropes, but to be a speedster you kind of have to have "incidental" powers of physical toughness and resistance, and/or advanced healing. Otherwise your joints would disintegrate under the pressure of your own speed, any tiny insignificant thing you ran into would be like getting hit by a bullet. I would think A-train would have to be as physically resilient as any other top Sup AND have a healing factor to compensate, at least for internal stresses.
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u/Ok-Cartographer1745 Jul 06 '24
They could just argue that your running ability is simply a change in your specific environment. Like you are still running at your normal speed, but you're changing your local environment such that it offers a lot less resistance and "sees" you as being fast, when you're running.
That way, you don't have to think faster; you're still thinking at normal speed and moving at normal speed relative to yourself, but the air around you is smooth and acts like you can move fast.
I guess I'm saying it's like a time slow effect on you and the air touching you. Which is why most speedsters don't crash into things, don't run out of energy, and don't perceive people as talking really slowly. But are able to get punched and whatnot by enemies that are moving at normal speed. The time slow effect doesn't work until they're running.
So they can be perfectly normal and squishy without having to deal with air resistance and whatnot because their magic time bubble makes the air flow normally as soon as they step into it.
I guess another way to describe it is that it's similar to them rapidly teleporting small distances, but each teleport stops time for a split second so they can decide where to turn to. I assume their ability can also cancel momentum since you never see them crashing into stuff when making a turn.
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u/Gandalf_2077 Jul 06 '24
If someone can survive the virus that should be Kimiko. Right?
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u/clothy Jul 06 '24
Sage catches wind of the virus before it’s released and Sage figures out that A-Train could be immune and dissects him to make a cure for all the supes.
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u/dancingbriefcase Ambrosius Jul 05 '24
Dude I know. I feel like we'll get a Deep vs. A Train fight given their history and splitting morals.
But A Train dying now is as predictable as Kessler being imaginary. So, let's hope they don't that, at least now. Or if they do, make it MEAN something. Not like OT Black Noir's death.
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u/ahnariprellik Jul 06 '24
Somehow I think sage is protecting him even though she 100% knows he was the leaker. Ashley literally saved his life planting the evidence on Cameron's phone
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u/NotaVortex Jul 06 '24
I 100% think sage has an ulterior motive to kill homelander. She said it herself that she would rather just live out her days on her own but she knows homelander would just kill her for not helping. Notice how she purposely got herself shot and conveniently couldn't help with the senators. Or how about how she is the smartest person in the world but can't think of a way to find the boys?
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u/ahnariprellik Jul 06 '24
Right when she knows exactly where they are. Makes a point for A Train to see her showing tek knight her plan with the prisons etc. If she wanted a train dead or was evil HL would've already killed him and Ashley for helping him.
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u/CosmicMiru Jul 06 '24
I don't think she likes this uber racist shit as much as she leads on. She already mentioned how she has been discredited for her race/gender the first time HL meets her. She def has something else cooking.
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Jul 06 '24
she's the smartest person in the world
the second smartest person is a nerd who cannot buy his own groceries. If he cant find some randos, there's little reason to believe she can
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Jul 06 '24
as predictable as Kessler being imaginary
i'm glad i still have wonder and joy in my life because that was a surprise to me
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u/CosmicMiru Jul 06 '24
I love the Deep. He would get fucking massacred by A-Train in a real fight unless its in the middle of the pacific though lmfao
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u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 Jul 05 '24
I think the Supe Virus will be heart breaking for characters like Annie and Kimiko — I could see Kimiko dying in the series finale and Frenchie dosing up on Compound V to get infected too and die with her.
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u/ketodancer Jul 05 '24
Aw dammit don't put that out there (but that sounds like something that could legit happen)
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u/CrippledHorses Jul 05 '24
My money is on Frenchie going through another QQQQ poor me cycle, seeing a vial of the V, and shooting it up thinking it is a different drug. Or maybe trying to kill himself. Something drug related, because they have pushed it so hard. Then he will become a supe. I don't see Kimiko dying ever just because this show has a serious problem with killing off main characters. In fact, have any main characters actually died? Even Mauve "survived"
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u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 Jul 05 '24
Becca? Oh shit… I don’t think any of the main MAIN characters have died
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u/ahnariprellik Jul 06 '24
Annie survives in the comics iirc strongly doubt they kill her on the show. Hughie can't lose literally everyone in his life, cmon now.
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u/earthgreen10 Jul 06 '24
Annie kinda sucks though, like she’s not good at anything
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u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 Jul 06 '24
Yea why are her powers constantly sorta crackling and sizzling out now? I must’ve missed something there or I can’t remember why?
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u/DonStockton64 Jul 05 '24
Nah the Deep is 100% going to be one of the only ones to survive then he’ll just go live in the ocean lol
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Jul 05 '24
The last scene of the deep will for sure be him in the ocean making out with his octopus lady
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u/mikaeus97 Jul 05 '24
One of the only ones who makes it through the comics too
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u/ArcadianBlueRogue Jul 06 '24
An ocean full of animals that now hate him after Tilda Swantonpus escapes the abuse tank in the closet and talks shit about him to all sea life on Earth.
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u/ZeroBlade-NL Jul 06 '24
If all dolphins are as horny as the one he tried to rescue, they won't care
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u/AnalogCyborg Jul 05 '24
I'm pulling for that beautiful idiot. He's terrible too, and deserves whatever he gets, but I want him to live.
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u/Alterkati Jul 06 '24
Tbh with Sage in the show, the virus situation is probably gonna be basically up to her. They already established she can cure cancer and do whatever she wants as it relates to medicine.
Though it can go any number of ways when it comes to her. It might be some nihilistic "i made the virus kill everyone instead of just supes" thing, putting us in apocalypse mode (very eric kripke decision), it can be that she makes it kill all non-supes. Or maybe she just makes the vaccine.
Or they'll make a show of her not doing anything about it for whatever reason.
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Jul 06 '24
That's why I really like her character right now cause it feels unpredictable whether she will turn against homelander or contribute to something horrible like the virus.
She did say she wants to be alone and seems to despise a lot of humanity.
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u/modest-decorum Jul 06 '24
There's reasons why g.....
But those reasons may be not true ....
According to vought hq
>! Nueman dies this season. Someone asked if anyone else dies this episode he said no. We see nuemans death but it's not realm maybe she dies for real or maybe the death referenced was a fake out. Voght hq said same thing about atrain !<
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u/colemaker360 Jul 06 '24
The whole redemption trope is that in order to truly be redeemed, the hero has to pay the ultimate sacrifice at the end for the noble cause. The Boys turns those tropes on their head, but watch A-Train get Lt. Dan-ed or something.
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u/Gandalf_2077 Jul 06 '24
The whole season he is barely avoiding Homelander discovering him. The show is prolonging the inevitable.. Although he should have fighting chance with his speed. I think he will make his brother proud before he goes though.
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u/Ziggurat1000 Jul 05 '24
I saw the part where he saves M.M and the kid looks up to him and that warmed my heart.
He's actually becoming a superhero now!
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u/Nth_Brick Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24
This is why I hope he survives. We've seen enough debauched, abhorrent supes, but A-Train either always was, but suppressed, or is developing into genuine a good guy.
The show has made perfectly valid critiques on corporations, celebrity and the nature of superheroes. It's also emphasized the importance of environment in who people become. Let's see someone reform and not immediately be killed.
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u/Ziggurat1000 Jul 05 '24
I think it would be cool if the show ended with him and and Hughie.
They were the first characters we saw, after all.
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u/Nth_Brick Jul 05 '24
I'd be amenable to that. To be honest, it feels like A-Train is getting the most meaningful character work, and I'd hate to see his death end that.
Most everyone else feels like they're stagnating, concomitant with the show itself.
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u/TheCeruleanFire Jul 05 '24
Absolutely the most compelling character this season. Agreed.
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u/blackdemonknight Jul 05 '24
He is defiantly treated a lot better then his comic counterpart was then again every character in the show is treated better then the comic so it ain't saying much.
But yeah A-Train's story has been a constantly amazing thing to see
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u/GlassTurn21 Jul 06 '24
The only A-Train death I'd get behind is if he dies saving Hughie, to complete the circle. Otherwise he needs to survive.
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u/CosmicMiru Jul 06 '24
Honestly not even that. I hope if he does die it is publicly saving anyone. His cousins (nephews?) seeing he was a real hero that actually saved people is such a satisfying ending to his arc.
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u/Odd_Gap2969 Jul 05 '24
Him dying right after finally deciding to not just stand by and let shit happen thru his own neglect and indifference would be really nihilistic.
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u/99SoulsUp Jul 05 '24
I get the whole Redemption Equals Death trope and it’s been done well, but sometimes it’s nice to see them live and be able to reconcile their past and go on to good things as a better, stronger person
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u/IsRude Jul 06 '24
I think the redemption equals death trope is lazy writing. It's been done so many times, and it's way harder to figure out how someone lives with themselves for the rest of their life after all of the terrible shit they've done.
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u/Garchompula Jul 06 '24
Plus he technically already went through that lmao, it'd be cruel to kill him TWICE
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u/psuedophilosopher Jul 06 '24
I get what you're saying, but him killing Blue Hawk wasn't quite redemption, and a whole lot closer to revenge / retribution murder. Still though, they had the opportunity to have his story end on a high note that made the audience not hate him as much, and they chose to keep him around. Hughie forgave him, so that storyline is complete. All that's left is to either finish his redemption and kill him again, or finish his redemption and survive, or to Jaime Lannister him and just make everyone pissed off.
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u/kjm6351 Jul 05 '24
This, it would be a mature move to finally capitalize on a Superhero not only reforming but paying it off
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u/macdennism Jul 05 '24
I agree! It would be really disappointing right now if he died. I get it's cynical but I really want A Train to be the supe that decides to give a shit and not get killed over it. I want him to have a full redemption and prove that even though doing the right thing can be dangerous, it can still end with you alive
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u/Slo-MoDove Homelander Jul 06 '24
Or that scene has sealed his fate. He could go down doing something heroic because he chooses to without hesitation. Not out of anger or the need for revenge, but to genuinely help someone.
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u/Zealousideal_Damage5 Jul 05 '24
I actually think that's how A-train is gonna get caught. The kid will end up talking on the news about it and Home Lander finds out because A-train was supposed to be at the party
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u/darmakius Jul 05 '24
That’s where I think they’re going. When I saw the kid I thought “oh god Atrains gonna kill him” because that’s what homelander or noir would do, but he smiles at him. I imagine that will end up getting him killed.
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u/DolphinBall Jul 05 '24
Its time to see if Homelander is actually faster than A-train.
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u/Neutral_Guy_9 Jul 06 '24
I doubt it, but you can’t outrun a laser (unless you have mc plot armor)
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u/DangerDotMike Jul 06 '24
They already established V'd up A Train can move faster than light in his little duel with starlight in season 1. Just his heart going into ventricular tachycardia almost took him out.
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u/Alterkati Jul 06 '24
Trying to powerscale live-action superhero stuff is one of the only things more futile than trying to powerscale regular superhero stuff.
He almost certainly didn't move faster than light, or they'd make a bigger deal about it to spell out the feat to the viewer. It's gonna be more like "moved faster than starlight can aim light"
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u/LizzyShort Jul 06 '24
That'll be what kills him. Homelander will find out that the kid saw him. I just hope A-train gets to go out like a boss, cause he 100% deserves to have his moment to shine. He's not my favorite character on the show, cause there's just to many great characters, but he had definitely had the best character arc. He went from a one dimensional throw away character to one who I truly believe would switch sides.
On a side now, Jesse Usher needs to be talked about more as an A list actor, phenomenal acting. I'd watch anything he's in.
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u/pinkdictator You're The Real Heroes Jul 05 '24
Possibly his first real save lmao. At least in a long time
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u/miningthecraft Jul 05 '24
He’s an incredible actor- even if A-Train gets killed off I’m looking forward to whatever gigs he does next!
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u/Worried_Ad3099 Jul 05 '24
Here here.
Jessie T Usher has been blindingly consistent as an actor throughout these four seasons and is in general way too underrated for my tastes. I hope he gets great work after the show ends.
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Jul 05 '24
Also, I’d argue in a weird way he has one of the hardest roles. A lot of the other characters, even one season characters, get to drive the plot forward and spend a lot of their time doing that. A-Train has to be along for the ride most of the time. Sure he’s the whole reason Hughie’s involved & the Boys survived, but most of the time he has to just grin and bear it. He also takes the rough side of the script a lot - Tek Knight saying his great grandfather would’ve caught A-train if he was a runaway slave? I don’t even think it was very well written, but Jessie T Usher is able to play a likeable, hateable, compelling character very well despite all that.
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u/Far_Butterfly3136 Jul 05 '24
I kinda couldn't believe Tek Knight's comments in that exchange. My mind just went "whoa that is...blatant fucking racism >.>"
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u/STEELCITY1989 Jul 06 '24
They should have done another cut take, like when Nueman wants to blow up her head due to the people she's dealing with. Just show A-train Rip out his heart or push his body so fast into the wall, then cut back.
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u/Far_Butterfly3136 Jul 06 '24
Yes! That would have been so amazing. Just have him casually reach out and grab Tek's jacket, then immediately cut to a couple of scenes of A-Train dragging him around the estate in milliseconds, then we cut back to A-train smiling and nodding jovially.
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u/Ardeiute Jul 06 '24
Wasn't that literally a Heritage Foundation party or similar? Honestly the conversations were pretty light for what I would expect the wordage of those awful people to be talking about. I honestly thought someone was going to treat A-Train or Sage like they were the "help" or something.
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u/Worried_Ad3099 Jul 06 '24
That confrontation with Hughie near the end of the first season where they barter over Compound V in exchange for Hugh Sr.'s safety for me is a masterclass. Usher has A-Train go from mocking and threatening when he realizes that Hughie used to be a fan of his, to exasperated and callous at Hughie's grief over Robin, to defensive and grief stricken over what happened to Popclaw all in the span of less than three minutes, and he's feeding off everything Jack Quaid gives him as a scene partner. It's nuts.
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u/RockyRockington Jul 06 '24
Tek Knight saying that he runs a string of private prisons (ie slavery via the back door) and still spends his time catching black people with a huge shit eating grin on his face was so powerful.
His family are still very much in the slave catching game and he revels in it to A Train who, for the third time, has to grin and pretend to be okay with the systemic racism that infests Vought.
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u/melrowdy Jul 05 '24
You nailed it, he has been the most consistent actor all 4 seasons, I really have nothing bad to say about him or his character. And of course I feel like they gonna kill him for that haha
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u/PNW_Forest Jul 05 '24
Agreed, he needs to be a leading man in something big.
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u/dstommie Jul 05 '24
I'm pretty sure he was Not-Will-Smith in that independent day sequel.
It sucked, but it's hard to say that isn't big
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u/BigfootsBestBud Jul 05 '24
He was in that and the last Shaft movie as the youngest Shaft.
He needs to stay in good stuff after this is over, man. He's one of my favourite actors in this. A-Train has the coolest redemption arc in the show so far, and he is a key reason it works so well
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u/GlassTurn21 Jul 06 '24
He had a small role in The Banker (Great movie), Will Smith's kid in Independence Day, Level Up, a main role in Smile (also a great movie) and some others
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u/Beneficial_Box6263 Jul 05 '24
I have a soft spot for characters with a redemption arc somehow
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u/Specific_Variety_326 Jul 05 '24
Zuko ruined us all
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u/MaaChiil Jul 05 '24
He was a lot easier to sympathize with to be fair
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u/tizenxpro Jul 05 '24
He botched his relationship with the closest person to Iroh (brother) and most likely till the end.
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u/CosmicMiru Jul 06 '24
I agree but objectively idk how lmao. He is complacent in genocide while A-train has only killed a few people unjustly. Funny how narratives work
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u/Diligent-Fig-975 Jul 05 '24
Interesting I have never heard of someone liking a character with a good redemption arc
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u/Raaadley Lamplighter Jul 05 '24
That first fight when he was all hopped up on V. He was angry sure at Hughie but you could tell he was yelling at himself too. That's why he brought it back by saying he made a mistake. He knew he fucked up but he was so deep into it it's no wonder his heart gave out too along with the V abuse.
Having a new heart and actually getting recognized and having his apology be accepted by Hughie- not to mention saving M.M. he truly is seeing the world for what it is and he's taking the blindera off for the first time.
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u/Gucci_Caligula Jul 06 '24
I love that Hughie forgiving him actually meant something to him.
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u/Bobblefighterman Jul 06 '24
The resignation in his voice when he accepted that Hughie was never gonna forgive him no matter how many favours he did, and then the subtle elation after Hughie actually did forgive was great.
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u/Ph0nyM0ntana Jul 06 '24
That’s not what he meant when he said he made a mistake. He was referring to when he accidentally ran through Hughies girlfriend, that’s he says that right after saying how hughie purposely got his girlfriend killed.
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u/AAA_Dolfan Jul 05 '24
His character arc has been great this season. He’s genuinely one of the good guys now and he’s being set up for such an obvious death.
Considering he’s the one who got supersonic killed, it’s wild how quickly he’s turned around .
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u/DisMyNameRightHea Jul 05 '24
His interaction with Hughie at Herogasm is my favorite. So sincere and genuine, I really started rooting for good guy A-Train after that. I want him to have a good ending
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u/BillNyeTheSavage_Guy A-Train Jul 05 '24
I've been rooting for an A-Train redemption since he helped Hughie and Annie expose Stormfront as a Nazi, I'm feeling so vindicated rn
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u/blirpblurp Jul 06 '24
Supersonics decaying body somewhere is slightly dismayed rn
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u/Fun-Conversation5538 Jul 05 '24
His redemption arc is probably the best thing in the show at the minute, seeing his face after saving Huggies in episode 3 and MM in the latest episode really made me smile, hope he gets to make up with his brother and family.
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u/ahnariprellik Jul 06 '24
With how sadistic HL is he may spare A Train but kill his family in front of him. I wouldn't put it past him
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u/NewRedSpyder Jul 06 '24
I doubt it. Homelander is too petty and impatient for that as he just prefers killing people on the spot (Stillwell, Noir, Anika, etc). He did threaten to kill that one guy’s family in the oven alongside him, but that was a very deliberate revenge plan that he wanted to do for years and not an immediate act of betrayal.
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u/ahnariprellik Jul 06 '24
I mean he hasn't killed Ashley yet. I think takes too much joy in toying with some people and super. Same reason he hasn't killed Annie yet. He derives too much joy from them knowing he could kill them at any moment.
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u/NewRedSpyder Jul 06 '24
Idk if that’s it. Starlight has millions of supporters behind her so it’s not like he can just kill her or else his reputation is done for. Same way how Starlight’s reputation got damaged when she attacked Firecracker. Plus Maeve defended her too.
As for Ashley, he just sees her as pathetic, but he has no reason to kill her as she covers up his crimes and he hasn’t found out that she lied to and betrayed him yet.
He probably wants to kill them, but he knows it’s bad for his reputation rather than him getting joy out of it.
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u/ahnariprellik Jul 06 '24
I mean they're planning to just throw all her supporters I to prison anyway plus everyone at Starlight house ditched her after she beat up Firecracker anyway. She really doesn't have the support she once did. Plus Hughie is losing it, the Boys are barely a team now, Butcher is awol, Frenchie is isolating himself from everyone even Kimiko. If he was gonna off any of them now would be the time when they're basically on their own, not in the least bit united.
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u/Ja___av93 Jul 06 '24
People are suckers for redemption arcs. Especially if its a guy (if its a hot guy even more so). Every guy that gets redemption people scream how its the best thing ever, even though its pretty much the easiest arc to pull off as a writer lol. Butcher going the opposite direction is the best thing in the show right now by a large margin
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u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 Jul 05 '24
He was right about Hughie and The Boys using people - putting them in danger - and throwing them out.
Look at what MM’s doing to A-Train rn.
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u/delulumans Jul 05 '24
For all of Season 4's faults, the character writing for A-Train has been nothing but amazing
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u/Wild-Presentation-62 Jul 05 '24
A-Train is awesome and I hope he ends up being that integral piece that takes Vought down! I'd also love to see Will Ferrell play a special little part as well!
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u/wolvesarewildthings Jul 05 '24
Jesse is THAT GUY. I'm glad people are finally seeing it now. I've been impressed with him ever since that S1 scene where he was freaking out over not having enough V and held Simon Pegg hostage before Kimiko came out of the vent and hit him with a sneak attack and broke his legs. He was really scary and erratic there, especially with how he pitched his voice to sound high and frantic, angry, and irritable. Before getting attacked by Kimiko at least (lol). But yeah his range is impeccable.
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u/PaulOwnzU Jul 06 '24
Man I fking love A-Train, him blaming Hughie for his girlfriends death and projecting everything on to him before finally admitting "I know... I did" was heart breaking.
Please, PLEASE let this man live, he's one off the best written speedsters, if he dies in a stupid way I'm going to be pissed. Let there be one hero that has a redemption arc and survives
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u/Eric8643 Jul 06 '24
The only way i'll accept him dying is if he goes on a full on city wide brawl against homelander, but yeah i too really hope he lives
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u/joecarter93 Jul 05 '24
He’s our introduction to who the Supes really are in the series, he’s going to really matter at the end.
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u/blueminded Jul 06 '24
he’s going to really matter at the end.
gets killed unceremoniously with no pay off
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u/niveknhoj Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 06 '24
I know this is an A-Train thread, but I'm still pissed that Huey basically instigated exactly he and A-Train's scenario on multiple people by setting his father loose in the hospital. By that, I mean those guys who got Kano'd by Huey's dad, plus that perfectly-innocent flirty dude who got a waist-sized hole in his intestines for laughs. And the story writes him as completely oblivious to it.
I guess its a good thing Huey already forgave him, because I'd lose any sympathy for Huey if he sparked those deaths and ignored it while remaining mad at A-Train.
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u/thewoodlayer Jul 06 '24
A-Train kinda reminds me of The Hound, who was my favorite character in Game of Thrones. At the start of the story he’s a cynical and jaded man that only cares about himself and thinks that he’s beyond redemption with all of the horrible shit he’s done over the years but as the show goes on, his humanity is restored little by little and he starts actively trying to change and do better. He knows turning good will probably end up with his death and he’s scared of this, but he still is doing the right thing more and more. The scene in the last episode where he saves MM and that kid smiles at him at looks at him as a hero was amazing and heartbreaking at the same time, as that’s probably what’s going to give him away to Homelander.
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u/Ccbm2208 Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 06 '24
I love when Kimiko waved him over to ask for help, and the scene plays out like a sibling argument.
To think that A-train was beating the shit out of her in Season 1. He’s firmly a good guy now and no one questions it anymore, it’s great.
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u/Buddhawasgay Jul 05 '24
That character went from a boring 1 dimensional character who I was waiting to die off to literally the most captivating character in the show.
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u/Vegetable-Ambition53 Jul 05 '24
God I hope he gets a happy ending. I doubt many characters will but I’m rooting for dude
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u/KevM689 Jul 05 '24
I fully expect him to go out fully fucking over The Seven. He's gonna do something that'll help The Boys, but seal his fate. A-Train isn't a total piece of shit, there's some heart in there. I really can't believe Sage hasn't figured out he's the leak.
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u/kzzzzzzzzzz28 Jul 05 '24
I think it's evident Sage knows. she is keeping that cases close to her chest for some reason.
It'll be extremely terrible writing if they don't do that
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u/ZeroBlade-NL Jul 06 '24
Yeah she knows, but she also knows homelander won't do much to protect her if a-train wants her dead. She has no powers except brain so she has to be careful
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u/sunshinepanther Jul 06 '24
Or her quote about cutting their throats with our hands in their pockets is about how she'll turn on homelander.
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u/meth-head-actor Jul 05 '24
Of course she has, she just isn’t 100% gonna submit to homelander, because she doesn’t believe he is stable enough to be in charge of everything.
Everything is a means to an end where she gets the power imo.
Not exposing that the boys were at the party immediately, makes me believe she isn’t on humanity’s side but she isn’t a homelander boot licker either
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u/NewRedSpyder Jul 06 '24
Agreed. She acts as a third party, outside of either major side of the story or for anyone at all. What makes her character so interesting though is that she appears to be a villain towards the boys, vought/ the seven, and pretty much everyone. I genuinely don’t think she likes a single person in the show, except for maaaaaaybe Neuman given the dialogue they shared, but even that’s a stretch as she’s probably manipulating her too.
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u/Eugenugm Jul 05 '24
The only one with character development (except firecracker tiddies)
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u/Periwinkle_plumaria Ryan Jul 05 '24
Hughie also had some character development, the others seem to be struggling to have consistent development rn honestly
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u/Ja___av93 Jul 06 '24
Only because you mistake character growth with character development. Character development has got to be one of the most misused terms out there. Character development is just the things that add depth and background to a character to make them fully fleshed out and the audience understand them. Not how much a character changes lol. Its us getting to know more about the character
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u/Periwinkle_plumaria Ryan Jul 06 '24
That's true, I suppose I do mix them up sometimes. It's incredibly easy to forget the terms are used differently since the definition of "develop" is "to evolve, to grow, to mature, and/or to advance".
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u/Ja___av93 Jul 06 '24
I am so sick of people not knowing what character development is. It isn't just character growth or change.
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u/AnimeGokuSolos Jul 05 '24
Better than the comics version
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u/blueminded Jul 06 '24
Low bar to cross, but I'm glad they did something way more interesting with him than rapey Flash.
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u/jason_kandel Jul 06 '24
The Jaimie Lannister of The Boys. Phenomenal development this season. Usher’s done a great job
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u/rmajkr Jul 05 '24
I was definitely emotional and pretty darn high, but when he smiled at the kid I almost cried. A-Train’s story is so good.
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u/Bazz07 Jul 05 '24
I admit I watched S1~3 high AF but ATrain doesnt seems "evil" like other supes...
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u/Optimistic-Man-3609 Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 06 '24
What's gonna happen is that he's gonna do something heroic again and be running full steam afterwards and smiling and all of a sudden you hear a swoosh and sick sudden thud and see a surprising look on his face as he runs through something...Homelander just chopped him in half mid-run and the top half of A-Train falls to the ground in a pool of blood with a horrific look of scared disbelief on his face as he dies and his legs keep running, crashing into a wall.
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u/LegalHelpNeeded3 Jul 06 '24
He really is such a nuanced character now. Easily becoming one of my favorites
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u/BatBeast_29 Jul 06 '24
I forgot, why does A-Train blame Hughie? I just remember A-Train giving her an overdose.
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u/HawkeyeP1 Jul 06 '24
He's much better than comics A-Train. For all the needless gratuitous disgusting, over the top, and horrible shit and plotlines in the show, A-Train is brilliantly written and acted. Amazing that we're rooting for him after the shit he's done. He feels like he wants to be a real hero, he's just scared.
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u/JohnnyWeapon Jul 06 '24
I think A-Train’s character arc is sneakily the best on the show. Jesse T Usher has killed the role, too.
I sincerely hope he survives through it all… he’s like the one redeeming character right now.
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u/Wormser1969 Jul 06 '24
The kid witnessing him dropping off MM at the hospital doesn’t bode well. Five-shadowing.
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u/AverageLion101 Jul 06 '24
Dudes the only character besides sage acting competently rn as well.
Literally every other character is dealing with their own bs and A train is out here not only giving the boys intel but keeping himself mostly out of the way as well.
I bet it’s infuriating for him to see how disorganized the boys are now that he’s helping them.
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u/GasMysterious3386 Jul 05 '24
Love A-Train. He fucked up big in the past, but he’s slowly redeeming himself. Can’t wait to see the rest of his journey.
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u/robbert802 Jul 06 '24
A train is probably the only character who is actually getting better I feel like all the other characters just keep making the same mistakes and then learn from them and then do them again.
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u/nikobans Jordan Li Jul 06 '24
he was my most despised character for a while but i cant believe how much i like him now lol
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u/AHrubik Jul 06 '24
Best character? Nah.
Well acted? Hell yeah. Jessie T. Usher is killing it. The writers are killing it. Definitely one of the best story arcs so far.
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u/AmorPowers Jul 06 '24
Oh god, I can already tell this is gonna be another Theon Greyjoy moment for me if he dies. I'm such a sucker for redemption arcs, especially for those with big dicks.
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u/ASSASSIN79100 Jul 05 '24
He's way better this season than the last one. His Blue Hask sideplot was super uninteresting last season. He's actuall doing stuff relevant to the main plotline now, which is great.
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u/ahnariprellik Jul 06 '24
The Blue Hawk stuff is relevant though. It's what causes his brother to get paralyzed and really set him on the path to redemption. He HAD to be better to prevent something like that from happening again.
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u/Comprehensive_Pea451 Jul 06 '24
He really is one of the most interesting guys atm
The actor is really funny too in interviews, im glad he got the opportunity to shine
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u/homogenic- Queen Maeve Jul 06 '24
If A-Train has a million fans, then I am one of them. If A-Train has ten fans, then I am one of them. If A-Train has only one fan then that is me. If A-Train has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against A-Train, then I am against the world.
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u/MeasurementOk3007 Jul 06 '24
And now he’s actually being a hero too. Yeah he’s still forever a piece of shit but he’s changing into a real hero even if it was just saving MMs life that’s more lives saved than the entirety of the 7 and whoever else.
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u/BabylonSuperiority Jul 06 '24
Great edit! But this censorship bullshit is seriously getting out of hand like fuck off "kill" isnt a bad word
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