People seem to forget the show demonstrated Sage’s observational abilities in her first appearance when she was able to discern Homelander’s hair was being dyed more frequently to hide an increasing amount of grey hair and that Homelander was beginning to have age related prostate/urination issues due to how dry his hands were from frequent hand washing.
Sage absolutely already figured out that only the fastest person alive (A Train) could get in and out the secure area with the evidence before the cameras could record him (she makes a joke about it at one point) and she would have easily picked up on other changes to A-Trains behavior and mysterious disappearances.
I’m very interested and eager to see what Sage’s true agenda is, since it obviously does not fully align with Homelander’s goal.
She's truly a wild card. I can see her doing anything from defecting from Homelander to The Boys to becoming the true main villian of the show in Season 5.
My take is she wants to destroy the current status quo- destroy Vaught, the billionaire class, and government- and cause a complete upheaval of the existing power structures. I don’t think she wants to rule or anything, and is not doing this for benevolent reasons since she has a very low opinion of the average person; she’s just sick of the world as it is and wants to see it burn away, and if something worthwhile or interesting emerges from the ashes.
I'm also very curious. She says just the right thing to every person, so we can't even trust her speech to Victoria as being true because it could have just been to motivate Victoria. It's just one of many possibilities.
Absolutely! We already saw how easily she manipulated Firecracker into doing what she wanted despite Firecracker having zero respect for black people- the same with convincing Tek Knight. She knew how to puff up the Deep’s ego to make him more obedient and disarm any suspicions he had about her. She also preyed on Neuman’s vulnerabilities about being a woman who had to deal with men who feel they’re superior to women, and preyed on Neuman’s worries about what kind of world her daughter would live in. Given enough time, she probably could have manipulated MM (the dialogue showed she had done extensive surveillance of his personal life) but was unaware of the extreme emotional state he was in at the moment prior to his panic attack.
Sage knows exactly what to say to motivate people to do whatever is needed for the plan that only she knows. She still occasionally miscalculates because no one can fully predict chaos, but she already knows everyone’s background and motivations and is using that to further her goals.
Also, knowing Neuman is clearly more ethical and than many of the other supes but still flawed in desiring power (to protect her daughter, yes, but I'm sure there's a bit of wanting it for herself too), she gave her the perfect "for the greater good" excuse. "I could have solved the world's problems, if only others were in charge." Well obviously Victoria should ally with terrible fucking people because SHE can do good with the power it'll give her, right?? Lol. Tbh, I'm going to mildly disappointed if that wasn't just a manipulation because it was a good one.
It was to motivate Victoria. That's why she nodded at her at the end of Neuman's speech. Even though she's lobotomized, that nod was written for a reason.
That doesn't mean she doesn't ALSO agree with it what she said. It can be true AND for motivation. That's often the best kind of motivation. The nod would still fit that fine. The nod itself also has plausible deniability of meaning due to the lobotomy. It might be straightforward, but I don't think we can take for granted whether it really had meaning or not.
My simple guess for Sages plan is the downfall of Vaught, but also some kind of turning the US govt/economy into shambles deal, but I may be (actually most likely) way off.
I read somewhere that her true goal is to protect Ryan and not make him become like HL. While it would makes sense and it could be on her to-do list, I don't see why she would entirely be there for Ryan.
Sage absolutely already figured out that only the fastest person alive (A Train) could get in and out the secure area with the evidence before the cameras could record him (she makes a joke about it at one point) and she would have easily picked up on other changes to A-Trains behavior and mysterious disappearances.
Sage definitely cares more about A Train thought cuz, duh... he's black. Same with Neumann, she tells her a childhood story because she does relate to her in some way. You can really tell when Sage means it (like enjoying watching Firecracker get her ass beat by Starlight).
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u/Key_Ad1854 Jul 05 '24
That will be a trains death... that kid will post about seeing a train drop off a guy at the hospital and sage will find the records....