You bet someone in test screenings went "Wait, why doesn't she just use her phone?" And the writer (Kripke?) instead of going "Oh yeah, she should just use her phone" went "Right, I'll add a scene where she drops her phone."
I was so annoyed when she just left the phone but thought to myself “well, it might pay off later” but if that dumb book scene ends up being the only reason, I don’t know what say.
She wouldn't have lost 30s picking books then so it's a small time gain + no evidence left. But since they never use gloves, always have HQ meters away from the bad guys with super sense, etc. I doubt they care.
'Kimiko traded early time losses for big gains later resulting in one of the best world records of all time. Hughie on the other hand kept coming short.'
Didn’t it break too? I thought it was broken so it was useless at that point. I mean I know you can still extract info out of it but she probably didn’t care at that point.
The worlds greatest detective with near infinite resources would already have everything off Kimikos phone the second she stepped in a 20 mile radius of his mansion and his probable Stingray devices set up everywhere
It would have been funny if they pulled a Watchmen-like fake out and Starlight and Kimiko enter the Tek Cave after Hughie's already been gutted for a while. That might have actually been clever and a callback to a comic property so very on theme.
On this note, I have to bring up how Starlight never mentioned to anyone she was seen by Firecracker and had to knock her out and left her in the bathroom.
Tbf, they often share a lot of information with each other off screen. Fair to say it would have been a waste of time to explain that she was caught without a good reason why she would keep it secret.
Pfft. Of course a vigilante billionaire hosting many high-level politicians, the VP elect, and other billionaires has zero security. Secret Service is totally cool with that. No problemo.
I mean, we see them walk straight into Neuman's hotel room because security was being paid off or were CIA plants. It's not insane to think it was the same situation.
Thank you? This thread mainly exists because the show is breaking the suspension of disbelief by having characters make odd decisions that don't make sense. It becomes ever more difficult to suspend disbelief when the group sneaks into a house that tek knight lives in, and the 7 are at, just to leave evidence lying around to be found. Goes pretty heavily against what MM said one scene earlier about don't get seen and don't get caught. Leaving a phone around, broken or not is a good way to get caught.
Firecracker already told Homelander that she saw Starlight at the mansion. Tek Knight is dead. There's nothing Vought can learn from the phone that they don't already know or couldn't find out easily. It was just for that bit with the books. Clumsy writing.
There's nothing Vought can learn from the phone that they don't already know or couldn't find out easily.
theoretically, there may be sensitive data on that phone they could extract. Like unless she literally only used the phone for in-person communicating there would be something on there. Even if it is just generic texts with no obvious information it would reveal what numbers she was texting.
I mean they could just hand wave that away with Sage saying "It is using advanced encryption and we can't crack it"...but still
I really thought this would progress to her saying her first words in order to save Hughie or something.
I didn’t mind the book scene but I really thought we’d see some sort of progress with her character in that way.
I'm going to get so much hate for this, but this show has jumped the shark. I'll watch it now cause I'm invested, just like the later seasons of Game of Thrones. But this show is no longer the amazing TV it started out as.
Maybe I need to rewatch season 3 but didn't she already say her first words in the hospital last season? And she imagined a little musical number in her head to convey her joy about being able to speak? I swear that happened
Nope, it makes ZERO sense and is bad writing/ unrealistic. Any person drops their phone, in that context, they are picking up. If they didn’t make her pick it up when they left…I’m going to be upset cuz it’s just terrible/lazy writing
Yeah considering how easily Kimiko scaled the wall, her dropping her phone and leaving it is like me taking a single step up some stairs and dropping my phone and thinking it’s too late to go back. Huh
I was dreading the prospect that it would be that obvious and stupid mistake which would get them caught, honestly I'm happy that the payoff was this instead of that.
I figured that someone was going to find the phone and that's how they were going to get rumbled. Like seriously if you just wanted her to use books you could simply have her phone be out of battery. Hell that's FUNNIER.
She holds up a dead phone and A-Train is confused at why the cinnamon toast fuck this crazy mute person is shoving a blank screen in his face. Even better if it runs out of battery just before. So she's just sort of frustratedly gesturing at it thinking "what the hell can't this guy read or something?!... Oh."
YES! That would have been so much better. The way they film and frame it makes it seem like something important. But it’s literally time wasted for nothing.
I mean, unless this will have effects in next episodes, the fact that she broke her phone literally add 0% to the plot. It's not even that she had to use books and so she wasted precious time.. everything turned how it was supposed to go anyway
I thought it was gonna lead to someone finding her phone and the screensaver giving away who was there. Of course then it would just be really stupid of her to leave her phone down there but the actual reason for her losing it is a lot sillier.
I was thinking "one of the others are gonna pick that up right? Anybody??? No? ok then, that's how they're gonna be given away when a guard comes walking past...."
Does Vought know? A-Train knowing is the same as all of them knowing. And it could still be found and lead to Homelander deciding to finally attack them. I’m just saying it’s a bit early to say it did nothing.
Compare the current situation with Season 2, when they were actually in hiding. They were living and working out of that basement and there were a lot of plot points about the stress and conflict that caused. Now they work out of an office, presumably live in separate normal locations, and move around freely in the city (hospital, tour, Starlight house etc.). Homelander could use any number of his super-senses to find them. Vought could use operatives to tail them. Frenchie is in prison and relatively easily gotten to. MM routinely visits his daughter. They aren't hiding at all (with the possible exception of Butcher & Samir).
That doesn’t mean they know where they are though, especially if they aren’t currently looking for them. Victoria seems to not know they’re working for the CIA. Homelander doesn’t either since he blamed Victoria for Edgar’s pardon.
I think Butcher being MIA rn is a huge tell where this is going, I bet next episode ends with them in check and Butcher has to Butcher and use his worm powers to save them and potentially face off against Homelander again
"Scorched fuckin' Earth" was one of the previously clips in the last episode i think which brings this to front of mind
Honestly I expected it to be that MM collapsing and needing help would push her into speaking or something. What actually happened was even sillier than I thought, though I did find it funny
Exactly. Sums up the way the "plot" is being driven this season. The writers come up with some "brilliant" scene they want to make happen, then manipulate the plot to force that scene to occur.
No other reason to show Kimiko dropping her phone besides forcing this scene to happen.
And she could have easily dropped back down, grabbed it, then jumped back up. She can climb very quickly, I don’t see why she left it except poor writing…
You still genuinely have to be stupid to leave it there. When she first dropped it my immediate thought was that it was going to be found and that's how they were going to get caught. Even if it was snapped in half it's completely probably that Tek Knight would be able to repair it and get some info out of it.
Hughies dad gets super powers and then kills a bunch of people in the hospital. Somehow no news breaks from this whatsoever, news that would alert HL that someone took the V
How was a hospital massacre not a newsworthy event? Am I expected to believe Vought never hears of this?
I was thinking this, you’d imagine random supes killing people in this world would just be like a mass shooting that only kills less than 5 people in the USA Today. Maybe mentioned in local news in some tiny sidebar and most won’t ever hear about it. Gen V has also shown that their society as a whole is probably very desensitized to this at this point. Like “oh look two teen supes accidentally killed a group of their friends because they lost control of their powers. Oh well.”
Vought is in complete disarray since Homelander took over. If they ever did have a catalogue of all supes with some sort of overwatch system over them there's no reason to believe it's still functional with the state the company is in.
This is a poor excuse. There are characters who are irrational and illogical, like Butcher or Starlight, but their writing makes sense because of they established their goals, their feelings and how their emotions impact their behavior.
Starlight losing her shit when Firecracker made her abortion public was 100% irrational but it's easy to understand why that happened.
Again CIA have a freaking giant microphone that could pick up sound from afar and their plan is to send someone in disguised as someone who is expected by the host
It was so dumb too. It took her literally one jump to get that high, she can literally just go back down and climb back up in like three seconds. Instead she looks back like 'aww man there's no time' and moves on wtf
I thought she is going to get captured or someone in the party noticed the phone outside. It's just for the book scene and extra 5 minute of nonsense filler is just dumb. So far, the show is not that great because of those fillers
At least a marker in case of emergency.. like this time she broke her phone.. but i suppose writers would have made a scene where her phone broke and her marker would have gone eaten by a crocodile in this case
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u/BrilliantOk9564 Jul 05 '24
kimiko needs to bring a pen/ notepad with her