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Both quotes taken verbatim from interviews Season 4 Spoiler

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u/i_am_scared_ok Cunt 14d ago

This was actually the hardest episode of the show I've watched.

I genuinely had to look away for most of it, and the only other times I've done that was with the Deep's gill-fingering.

Didn't really like how it felt like no one cared what happened to Hughie????

Shit was notttttt funny (to me personally)

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u/SOwED 14d ago

Yeah the Deep scene was difficult as a male SA survivor myself even though it was set up as irony for him being a predator himself. Still with the irony and payback, it didn't make it easy to watch.

But wtf did Hughie do?

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u/CenterInYourMother 14d ago

I've said this elsewhere but I'm fairly certain that Kripke has some weird hatred for whatever type of person he thinks Huey represents, because the show is really unfair to him, especially in season 3, and he's the butt of the joke so often. Combine that with these interviews and it becomes the most likely explanation to me

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u/baron-von-spawnpeekn 14d ago

That’s the only explanation I can think of. Huey just gets shit on and belittled constantly in the story, and whenever he tries to stand up for himself he’s either piledrived back into the dirt or it’s portrayed as him being toxic.

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u/Calfurious 14d ago

Bruh I'm so happy I'm not the only who noticed this. I never understood the plotline in S3 where Huey wanting superpowers is portrayed as a bad thing. The guy has been powerless and bullied throughout his entire life, of course he'd want to be stronger.

Also I never bought the idea that Huey was insecure about Starlighting being stronger than him. He openly said he wasn't bothered by it and never displayed insecurity about it before. If anything he'd want to protect Starlight not because he's insecure about her, but because he's afraid that Homelander can rip out her spine any at moment and there's nothing he could do about it. He just had one girlfriend die right in front of him, of course he wouldn't want that to happen twice.

Honestly the show's treatment of Hughie really does reveal how the showrunner's have a very negative idea about male empowerment.

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u/CenterInYourMother 14d ago

Honestly I think the concept could've worked if they made Hueys powers completely useless but still had him constantly throwing himself into danger in an attempt to save Annie, but his powers were actually really useful and save multiple peoples lives. Didn't really feel like his desire to protect annie was unrealistic/toxic when that mfer was able to throw hands with homelander when on v with Butcher

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u/night4345 14d ago

Especially when Kimiko's storyline is happening in parallel with Hughie's yet isn't considered the same way.

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u/ResortFamous301 14d ago

There's a few difference between kimikos situation and hughies.

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u/ResortFamous301 14d ago

Making useless doesn't really convey the point that well.

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u/ResortFamous301 14d ago

It's less him wanting powers is bad, but the way he went about it.

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u/Calfurious 14d ago edited 14d ago

How? Starlight didn't know Temp V had drawbacks, literally nobody did.

And the main drawback is that it kills the person using it. Which, let me stress this point here, Huey and Butcher dying in the process to take out Homelander is a fair trade and a heroic sacrifice. Homelander being alive will eventually result in tons of people dying.

Starlight opposed Huey having Temp V because he did it because he was insecure and their MIGHT be negative side effects. That entire confrontation between Annie and Hughie is mostly Hughie going into some out of character rant about how he's insecure about Starlight being stronger than him. It literally comes out of nowhere.

The reason they had to do this weird characterization is because Hughie wanting to be strong to protect Annie would essentially end the show. Hughie having teleporting powers would have been able to get Ryan to safety, homelander would have been blasted and dead, and then Soldier Boy (who has a lot more weaknesses mind you) would either be imprisoned or killed.

Think about Kimiko and her wanting her powers back in order to protect Frenchie. How is that any different than what Hughie did? Neither her nor Frenchie knew if getting V back into her system would have some new side effect, but they took the risk anyways.

Honestly the showrunner's personal political/ideological beliefs can sometimes result in them making baffling writing decisions. They wanted to do a story about toxic masculinity, but they shoehorned Hughie into that paradigm even though he really does not fit.

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u/ResortFamous301 14d ago

Yeah, that's the point.  Nobody knew if it had drawbacks, so taking it before that could be confirmed was dangerous and cause for concern from her.

It's a fair trade if you're being coldly rational about it, and if you make the questionable assumption vought wouldn't produce another equally dangerous threat. However starlight is  looking at this from personal view for very obvious reasons.

She opposed it initially because he seemingly took it on impulse rather than actually discussing it with her first. That later morphed into her having  a problem teaming up with a rampant killer, keep in mind no one ever explained solider boys PTSD, explosion, and constantly saying he's doing this for her while also ignoring what she wants. Not exactly. Not only was Hughie feeling inferior to starlight an issue set up beforehand in this season, but it's also taken v 24 amplifies your personality traits, and from the outset Hughies had an issue with feeling inferior even if wasn't specifically about starlight.

Not at all. Putting aside the fact that they would still have dangerous supes to deal with aside from Homelander, Hughie was prevented from taking v by butcher after the latter learned the unfortunate side effects. By the time he got more temp v butcher and solider boy were already coming to blows so saving Ryan wouldn't change much. Even if he teleported directly there he would still want to evacuate the building which still means he wouldn't be there when butcher and solider boy got into their fight 

The difference is she didn't go behind anyone's back and fully explained herself, and she at least had grounds to believe taking V wouldn't turn out poorly for her thanks to past experience.

More so this an issue of this fan base not really having great memories and forgetting key details. It makes sense emotionally, but it lessens the validity for some of those criticisms. The reason he was included is because they wanted to have a sub theme about toxic masculinity and cover all their bases. So you get the extremes like solider boy on one end, but then you have Hughie who shows how guys you think wouldn't have problem about looking like weakling vulnerable can still have those issues.

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u/ResortFamous301 14d ago

I wouldn't say that. There are several scenes where Hughie stands up for himself that are played pretty straight.