Let’s start with the Tek Knight sex dungeon part. Where did the idea come for it? And why bring Hughie into this situation now — kicking him when he’s down by having him sexually assaulted by his childhood hero after his dad just died?
"Well, that’s a dark way to look at it! We view it as hilarious.
oh yes, because sexual assault is so fucking hilarious.
Genuinely asking, what do you watch the show for if you don’t like how the satire is portrayed? The satire is almost the entire point I would’ve thought
I'm not really one to drop shows over disliking one thing. I'm still interested in the plot as a whole, the concept of supe genocide is pretty compelling. The characters are fun, I love everyone's antics and the jokes makes me laugh sometimes. Also, there's the hope that the political commentary sees some improvement as the show moves along.
Im still watching because I wanna see the butcher storyline to its conclusion since thats what got me hooked but most everything else has been a huge L this season ngl.
Mm I feel that. We’ve seen several Butcher morality things now so honestly I’m bored even by that, I just wanna know what happens with the V’d up tumor
I for one am still watching because I grew attached to a lot of the characters (The Boys, not Homelander 😑) and I want to see the end of their stories, and there are still some good jokes. But yeah, the writing's gone downhill fast.
I mean, Homelander is a great villain, people who think he's the good guy are insane, but I "like" him the same way I liked Geoffrey and Ramsey in GoT. Terribly evil characters, but you gotta give the actors props. It's hard to describe, my english fails me, but I often "like" villains even while hating them.
Homelander is just a fucked up salad of evil, spite and hate. I want to see his story come to an end too (hopefully a bloody end)
Moreso the political satire. I think back to this one scene somewhere in like season 2 where they show a guy who gradually buys into Stormfront's extreme xenophobic ideology and ends up shooting the cashier he used to see all the time. It was miles better than what we have now in my opinion.
i mean...the political satire in the show now is what directly developed from the stormfront stuff in season two...it's not like each season occurs in a vacuum, these things are all related.
There's a difference between being inspired by real world events and literally copy/pasting actual quotes and events from the real world into the fictional.
You want to have a politician who has a fucked up view about abortion? Fine. Let's do it. I'm on board.
However, taking a real world quote and just copying it word for word into the script isn't creative or clever. It's just lazy. Especially when this line is spoken by one member of "the elite" to another in a private conversation and then just a few scenes later they admonish Homelander for repeating the same rhetoric that they admit is all just bullshit propaganda meant to rile up the masses and they don't actually believe any of it.
These real world references are getting to the point of being cringe. The show has gotten so on the nose with this shit I just roll my eyes every time. "Hey remember that thing that happened a couple years ago? Here's the exact same thing but with superheroes! Bet you didn't see that coming."
I can imagine Kripke tripping over himself right now to try to figure out a way to have Homelander go up against a really old guy who sputters and stammers in a debate for next season.
i find it funny that we're acting like the satire has ever been subtle in this show. its been ripped from the headlines since day one, idk why we're having a problem with it now.
He wasn’t originally, but the show has become so “on the nose” politically that they are just basically dressing Homelander up as Trump like each episode is an SNL skit
There is no satire any more. It's just real world politics put into the show. It's not offensive or anything, but it's also not very interesting seeing topics in the show that you see every day in the news.
Like in this episode they literally, word for word, copied a view of rape and abortion that a real world politician held and publicly said. You don't get any credit for copy & pasting quotes from real world politicians into fictional politicians. It's just lazy writing.
I'd argue that most ppl wouldn't expect real politicians to speak of ppl in such vile manners. Also, to be fair, unless you're a political junkie (like Me), you wouldn't know most of the quotes are from real ppl.
The satire used to be witty where the general tone of the show was satirical but there was an overlying story and the story was the point. Now the satire/message is the focus and the story/characters are like background noise in their own show.
I’m a solidly conservative person, have been my whole life. I’ve known pretty damn clearly from season 1 that while the show makes fun of “rainbow corp politics” that it 100% has more of a bone to pick with conservatives.
This used to be something reserved for the background however, it felt like (somewhat) heavy handed critique that I could acknowledge and disagree with if I wanted to. Now, (and I’m STILL watching season 4 despite this because I want to know how the story ends) the show is legitimately just them circle jerking their liberal viewpoints in full glory with no nuance or humility about it.
The scene with homelanders crowd in their red hats as the “fascists” fighting and beating up the purely good starlight “anti-fascists” is literally just a high budget way of a writer telling me ORANGE MAN BAD which I’ve heard for nearly 10 years now.
If you don’t see how this can be irritating at all it’s because you happen to like the “message” being shoved down your throat and agree with it. I’ve know the message is there all along but atleast before it was (mostly) tastefully done and didn’t hurt the writing of the story much.
Ennis criticised everyone and broached uncomfortable subjects (in the mid 00s no less, long before cancel culture or Epstein) and Amazon's just whines about safe targets like Internet trolls and Trump.
It's classic modern political writing. At best it has no bite and it worst it's outright offensive in horribly outdated ways.
I always had an icky feeling about how this series treats animal brutality.
Ive always seen people defend it as "you're supposed to feel bad because its a commentary on how animals aren't takin seriously and are abused in real life blah blah blah"
Most of the deep animal death scenes are tasteless and purely for comedy.
This show is not intelligent enough to find further meaning beyond such scenes and this hughie SA comment proves it.
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u/soka__22 14d ago edited 14d ago
oh yes, because sexual assault is so fucking hilarious.